2. Yeah, I'm okay with the way they ended up losing the ship out of context -- it worked, they lived, so it's all good. I think my bigger problem was them going off on the ship without any kind of consultation in the first place. That seems wrong to me.
3. On Teyla: I don't think "hail to the wisdom of the menfolk" was necessarily intended to be the point, but it was definitely what I got. And I put that on the writers, not on Teyla. It felt to me like, for about an episode and a half, she was (for better or worse) keeping control of herself and her body as much as she could within the context of being on a team, and advocating for herself as capable, and she got smacked down for it so as to see the error of her ways.
And it's weird, because I basically agree with John that active duty is risk above-and-beyond the norm, but I hated how they got there. Which is not to say I would necessarily have enjoyed a lot of navel gazing either, but this felt mostly like Teyla being told what to do (and what she can't do), and resisting, and being punished for it, and that just makes me feel a little queasy.
YMMV, of course - I definitely don't expect everyone to see it that way.
Dang! It's getting eerie how much you and I agree!
On Teyla: I don't think "hail to the wisdom of the menfolk" was necessarily intended to be the point, but it was definitely what I got. I teach literature. I don't care what the writers intended (I teach medieval lit, so they're all long dead anyway!); it's the results that count. The writers did at least give us the "I was wrong"--"No, I was wrong!" exchange between John and Teyla at the end, but John being wrong gave us two grumpy characters. Teyla trying to keep up with the boys nearly gave us a lot of dead characters.
Right - while I appreciate the notion of authorial intent, and I consider it when I'm watching the episodes, I still kind of feel like there's somewhat of a responsibility to look beyond what you're writing and at what's actually being said. And in this case, what was being said was a big pile of no for me. It seems like a lot of people are very squeeful about the episode, so I dunno if maybe I'm looking at it from a weird angle or what but...glad to know I'm not the only one. :)
How cool, on the medieval lit teaching. At what level...college?
Nope! There are at least three of us who were not squeeful, because my husband thought the episode rated about a "meh".
Yes, I'm an English prof. Medieval lit is fun! I do both Old and Middle English (and I sneak in a little Old French, and I've been teaching myself Old Norse lately, at a very slow pace). I also teach History of the English Language, which is fascinating--I had no idea how much until I started to teach it!
3. On Teyla: I don't think "hail to the wisdom of the menfolk" was necessarily intended to be the point, but it was definitely what I got. And I put that on the writers, not on Teyla. It felt to me like, for about an episode and a half, she was (for better or worse) keeping control of herself and her body as much as she could within the context of being on a team, and advocating for herself as capable, and she got smacked down for it so as to see the error of her ways.
And it's weird, because I basically agree with John that active duty is risk above-and-beyond the norm, but I hated how they got there. Which is not to say I would necessarily have enjoyed a lot of navel gazing either, but this felt mostly like Teyla being told what to do (and what she can't do), and resisting, and being punished for it, and that just makes me feel a little queasy.
YMMV, of course - I definitely don't expect everyone to see it that way.
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On Teyla: I don't think "hail to the wisdom of the menfolk" was necessarily intended to be the point, but it was definitely what I got.
I teach literature. I don't care what the writers intended (I teach medieval lit, so they're all long dead anyway!); it's the results that count. The writers did at least give us the "I was wrong"--"No, I was wrong!" exchange between John and Teyla at the end, but John being wrong gave us two grumpy characters. Teyla trying to keep up with the boys nearly gave us a lot of dead characters.
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How cool, on the medieval lit teaching. At what level...college?
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Yes, I'm an English prof. Medieval lit is fun! I do both Old and Middle English (and I sneak in a little Old French, and I've been teaching myself Old Norse lately, at a very slow pace). I also teach History of the English Language, which is fascinating--I had no idea how much until I started to teach it!
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