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May 26, 2007 09:12

Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California tried to send a clear message on Friday that any legislative victory Bush won this week, when Democrats acceded to his demands and removed the withdrawal timeline, would be short-lived. "We are going to bring an end to this war," Pelosi said. "All of us have that goal."
Withdrawing from the country in no way ends ( Read more... )

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capnstamey May 26 2007, 16:54:17 UTC
I think the problem with so-called progressive measures is that they're so short-sighted. Raising minimun wage won't help at all. It'll pay people more to do minimal tasks, and with inflation being the natural order of things, minimum wage will just continue to be minimum wage... it's a vicious cycle. Wages increase, prices increase. Etcetera.

As for the war... ugh. That's all I can say. President Bush has gone too far, but really, there's no quick fix to this. We can't just pull out all of a sudden, that makes no sense. Withdrawing the troops = good only if there's a plan of action involved to resolve the conflict. But since the Middle East's plethora of conflicts have been escalating since the dawn of time, I don't think resolution is really viable. They have to decide they want to resolve issues. We can't do it for them.

Progressive thought is good, it gets us to stages we need to enter (like electricity and the printing press), but sometimes people are so anti-each other that they'll do anything to look better than the other, even if that means causing a whole lot of long-range problems.

That's why the gas boycott was a dumb idea. One day won't do anything. Only after time and a good, solid, plan will a anything like that yield good results. Things take time. People are impatient. What's the world to do?

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corruption newagelink May 27 2007, 09:45:01 UTC
> But since the Middle East's plethora of conflicts have been escalating since the dawn of time, I don't think resolution is really viable.

Right... I feel that we jumped into the middle of it, and by upsetting Saddam, upset the precarious balance between the religious warring factions. But I can't make any judgment as to whether that was for the better or worse, because I don't know. But it would certainly be foolish to regard it as a war for us to win, or even a war that we can win.

My understanding is that he was funding terrorist actions and doing lots of horrible and inhumane things as a dictator, and those are the primary reasons we went there and took him out. It seems now to be time to withdraw with an established Iraqi government to take charge of their situation. The problem, it seems to me, is the Iraqi government. We want them to have a democracy; they seem, for the most part, to be unfamiliar with it. This fact (as well as our unwillingness to let them have anything contrary), coupled with the coups for power, makes it difficult for them to have their government so we can leave.

So it seems we're either stuck there for a while, or we pull out for better or worse. (From what I've seen from the media, I'm inclined to think it would be for the worse, as the most violent group seems to take power in that sort of situation.)

The gas boycott was a dumb idea. And now you have people saying "It'll work if we just refuse to buy from Exxon or Mobile!" Idiots, stop using gasoline altogether; there's your solution. (Rather, end our dependency on it.) I no longer speed -- the additional acceleration costs more gas, which now seems too expensive -- and I'm looking to carpool and to utilize public transportation. Fortunately, neither option is viable in my hometown. :(

> sometimes people are so anti-each other that they'll do anything to look better than the other

I notice that so much with our government; I'm tired of it. It's always Democrats vs. Republicans -- god forbid we try to work for the common good of Americans -- and it seems so many of them are to make careers out of it, rather than to serve. And of course, they've given themselves salary increases and government (The Party) bonuses, retirement plans ...

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