close-mindedness bothers me.
So, 5:30-10:00 was spent with Jeremy and Jennifer in her room, filling up on unhealthy heatables, chips, and carbonated soda, watching SuperBowl commercials, talking and boardgames.
I got into an argument with Jennifer and Jeremy at the end -- they had invited me to their church, and thus the discussion began about what their church believes (and then more directly to what they believe). They're fundamentalist Protestants, and they absolutely refused to believe that Mary remained a virgin her life. Why? Because their translation of the Bible includes the word "brother", regardless of the context I showed them from the New American Bible (the "Catholic one").
They believe if it's not in the Bible then there's absolutely no reason to believe it. Like, that they're scared to consider a history which might alter their interpretation of the Bible (especially ignoring the fact that it wouldn't alter their relationship with God)...
I left angry, and they were also sick of arguing. They believe I'm warped in my Catholic ways, where I believe things the Catholic church invents (for power over their congregation). I simply am upset that they cannot follow basic logic. For example, Jeremy says I can't use any Catholic source to defend my stance, because the Catholic church makes things up. They follow so many logical fallacies; I wish I knew the names of them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_fallacy
Like, his logical fallacy of telling me I had to prove a Protestant belief to be false using only Protestant sources. Ugh. Or another hole in their logic: We both say "the Word of God is true". They take it to mean whatever translation they read is true. I take it to mean that the original text is true -- meaning, to understand any translation, you must take into account what they translated and why they interpreted it as they did. Like, certain parts of the Bible are open to interpretation. They don't believe that. They believe whatever their edition says is the only correct one.
It's astoundingly difficult to argue with people who are so closed-minded on what they *know* to be "The Truth".
AUGH.
I got into an argument with Jennifer and Jeremy at the end -- they had invited me to their church, and thus the discussion began about what their church believes (and then more directly to what they believe). They're fundamentalist Protestants, and they absolutely refused to believe that Mary remained a virgin her life. Why? Because their translation of the Bible includes the word "brother", regardless of the context I showed them from the New American Bible (the "Catholic one").
They believe if it's not in the Bible then there's absolutely no reason to believe it. Like, that they're scared to consider a history which might alter their interpretation of the Bible (especially ignoring the fact that it wouldn't alter their relationship with God)...
I left angry, and they were also sick of arguing. They believe I'm warped in my Catholic ways, where I believe things the Catholic church invents (for power over their congregation). I simply am upset that they cannot follow basic logic. For example, Jeremy says I can't use any Catholic source to defend my stance, because the Catholic church makes things up. They follow so many logical fallacies; I wish I knew the names of them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_fallacy
Like, his logical fallacy of telling me I had to prove a Protestant belief to be false using only Protestant sources. Ugh. Or another hole in their logic: We both say "the Word of God is true". They take it to mean whatever translation they read is true. I take it to mean that the original text is true -- meaning, to understand any translation, you must take into account what they translated and why they interpreted it as they did. Like, certain parts of the Bible are open to interpretation. They don't believe that. They believe whatever their edition says is the only correct one.
It's astoundingly difficult to argue with people who are so closed-minded on what they *know* to be "The Truth".
AUGH.