Lordy, Lordy!

Jul 15, 2006 14:35


This subject matter has been meticulously avoided...

But hey- here it is in hopes of having a go.

Sephiroth says that as a boy, he was “Different from the other children.” What other children? As Shin-Ra’s most valuable asset, and the soul variable (at the time) for the Jenova project, what other children was he around? Did they drop him off at ( Read more... )

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I don't exactly put my thoughts together too well because it's been a while but.. yrena July 16 2006, 06:00:41 UTC
It is imperative to point out that Hojo is a psycho [killer, qu'est-ce que c'est] power-hungry egotistical man.

I have to disagree with this somewhat.
Egotistical? Yes, he wanted to be better than Gast.
Psycho? Who knows, I suppose a lack of concern for any other person's feelings or welfare could be considered psycho. Personally I see that as anti-social, however. I don't think he's actually out and out insane, I think he's just twisted. At least borderline, because he still makes sense, in a sick kind of way.
Power-hungry... that's the part that I disagree with. Hojo does not care about politics, does not care about power, and to a certain extent does not care about money, so long as he has the staff, the equipment and the funding for his projects. He says so himself, in "The Maiden Who Travels the Planet", and in the game, that he is interested purely in science, proving his theories, showing Gast up, and the results of his tests and experiments.
Just thought I should clarify that..

I'll offer another interpretation though. :)
It's possible that Vincent thought the child was his, but there's a few problems with this. If he knew about their relationship, why would he sleep with Lucrecia? It seems like it was indicated that she didn't get pregnant until after she was with Hojo. His flashback shows Hojo and Lucrecia together first, then the pregnancy, then Lucrecia collapsing. Secondly, in his flashback, you see her running away from Vincent. I don't think Lucrecia entirely returned Vincent's love, but it's not exactly clear on this.. open to fan interpretation and all that (I like things being clear cut myself, darn you Square)

Taking that into regard, it's possible that Vincent was surprised that Hojo was actually talking about it admitting Sephiroth was his child. I mean, he probably never said anything because nobody else knows either. Then when Hojo says he's the one that gave Lucrecia and the child to the project, that is when Vincent realizes it wasn't his fault he couldn't stop Lucrecia from going through with it. It was because of Hojo that Gast and Lucrecia even allowed it. It's likely that when Vincent confronted Hojo about it, it was to get Hojo to help him stop it, and he thought Hojo just did that stuff to him to prevent him from interfering with the experiment.

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Re: I don't exactly put my thoughts together too well because it's been a while but.. glacial_phoenix July 16 2006, 08:14:31 UTC
Hm. I think Hojo's...obsessive. That's the word I'd use. He isn't a psycho-killer per se, but he has this horrifying disregard for lives - he seems to view all living things as test subjects and specimens, considering the way he refers to Aeris in the first disc.

Also, rationally, Vincent probably knows he couldn't have stopped Lucrecia from going through with it, I agree. On the other hand, I'm quite sure his heart disagrees with his mind. It's a lot like Cloud blaming himself over Aeris and Zack's deaths - rationally, logically, you know you can't do anything, but you keep thinking of all the what ifs and that's what gets you.

Also, FFVII is rich with relationships that are never official. It irks me. (*personally supports Vincent/Lucrecia but argh)

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