A... huge post. No worries if -no one- gets through it. ^^;

[nerdraeg]

All right, so the past few days for me have been the epitome of nifty; and not just for the Holiday. The aftermath was also excellent, and continues to be, with all credit going to the people who made it so. I promise I’ll write a huge, doting entry on it soon enough (for… my own satisfaction, as I’m sure no one needs any more of my Super Sized

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[nerdraeg]

In my opinion, however humble? Yes. ...Or... does it? It certainly makes something, but who or what is there to define that something as sound? Does 'sound' indeed have a platform of existence if there is no one to reflect upon it, nothing capable of processing it? Is that what non-existence is? But then... science IS what ISN'T too, so I suppose, it cheats a bit to one-up mathematics. :) That crafty science and its voodoo magic! *Shakes Fist.*

Which digresses into the point that; there are mathematical theories yet to be discovered. The math still exists, simply no one has been able to 'express' it, as you say. In that way, you slightly negate your own argument by pointing out that... mathematics exists alongside, and regardless of science, in the way that 'the plant being green' is true without anyone to write verses on its greeness.

No, no! Please never feel the need to apologize for seeing a thought out to its fullest, however much you stray from the 'point'. In this way, new points are discovered.

I would have to agree with that opinion, which is almost a shame. Gives little to broaden or build upon. But thank you for sharing it, all the very same.

Lojban, just for its excessively uninformative links, is clearly the 'ultimate language of we-never-get-to-the-point.' XD;; I think... I may have to pass, and stick steadfastly with German, for the time being.

[heerojf]

That was my conclusion as well: the crashing sound would exist even in the absence of sentient recognition of it. Analogously it's my opinion that science would exist even in the absence of math to help explain it.

I don't think I was negating any previous argument. The only thing I was contending was that math is a language so powerful that it can be used to describe anything in science. But the facts of science remain master of all. What good is it for me to say "the plant is green" if there is no plant?

Why does everything I say seems to harken back to The Matrix lately? o_o

Don't worry about agreeing to a point, even if it does bring discussions to a gradual end. At least it does so in a "wonder twins unite" kind of way.