Socialist is intellectual for sexy
The title has little to do with anything in the post. But a certain socialist in my life has just posted something on facebook that I want to spend a long-ass time refuting, so Facebook won't work because of the character limits. Also, I don't wanna get into a fight on Facebook.
He said that he refuses to get married until same-sex couples enjoy the right under the law to get married, etc. That was a paraphrasing, but it's the basic point that he made.
AS A QUEER, I disagree. I really do. I normally don't start things with 'as a queer' or 'as a woman' or 'as a dashingly attractive human being', but in this case, I think it's apropos.
First, I doubt anyone will particularly notice OR care if random straight people refuse to get married. The only way to make anyone notice or care that the reason a specific straight person isn't getting married is if they go around TELLING everyone, which makes them a fairly annoying kind of person (no offense to anyone who does this, just... I personally find it really annoying).
Second, I doubt people who are in charge of legislation give a fuck if some random straight people don't get married. Do something that makes them take notice. Donate to causes, protest, rally, suck men's cocks in front of senators (and film it :D!), anything that people who make laws NOTICE. Not marrying isn't gonna make them notice.
Third, religious people -- the ones who are extending this fight forever and ever and ever -- have already labeled you a sinner for believing in a different religion/gay rights/not believing in a God/whatever. I honestly don't think they will stop putting gay people to death.
Fourth, as a queer, that makes me uncomfortable. I don't want others to put their own lives on hold because I personally am not able to get married in many parts of this world (I am able in many other parts), assuming that I end up marrying a woman (not guaranteed).
Fifth, this listing thing is getting annoying, so I'll stop, but I'll keep making points. It's likely not right of me to question people's motives, but I often wonder exactly how big of a sacrifice this is -- I mean, okay, some people genuinely want to get married and believe that maybe they shouldn't if their gay friends can't, but some people, I think, might be hiding behind this to avoid commitment/getting married. Also, if you refuse to get married, I kinda wonder if all things being equal, you would want to get married at all. And then is it really making a point if you wouldn't do it anyway? I'm not accusing people of being dishonest, I'm just a bit... suspicious of people's motives. Not everyone's, I hasten to add.
Also, I'm a queer, and I WILL NOT WAIT UNTIL SAME SEX MARRIAGE IS LEGALIZED EVERYWHERE. I have no plans on waiting until the year 30,000. If I find a man or woman I like, and they like me back, I plan on marrying them. And I'm a little upset that if I marry a woman, it'll be considered taking advantage of the fact that I live in one of those areas that allow me to, but if I marry a guy, there'll be the subtle insinuation that I shouldn't partake in this hetero-ritual if queers can't. From some of my *friends*, specifically. I mean, they won't say it, but if they are doing this protest... it makes it sound like I shouldn't do it either.
Also, marriage allows for a lot of legal protections, and while I do appreciate fighting for queers getting it, I don't think one should deprive oneself of them! I'm not just talking about things like tax breaks, although those are nice.
Marriage allows one's spouse to visit one in a hospital, to make decisions as a proxy, to automatically get onto one's spouse's health insurance, to adopt children, protects spouses' rights to property (I don't believe in property rights, but if we have private property, we should at least take advantage of our right to keep it), etc. Granted, there are ways of getting around this IN THE LAW, but half of them aren't allowed to gays either -- and then one should deny oneself of THOSE.... I've lost track of exactly what point I was making, but seriously, I don't think that people are right in giving up legal protections. I understand the reasoning, but seriously, I'm not sure it's the greatest idea.
All in all, *I* don't intend to wait. And it seems ridiculous that some straight people, who can get married anywhere, are waiting around for queers to be allowed to marry everywhere, when many *QUEERS* aren't waiting for that!!
He said that he refuses to get married until same-sex couples enjoy the right under the law to get married, etc. That was a paraphrasing, but it's the basic point that he made.
AS A QUEER, I disagree. I really do. I normally don't start things with 'as a queer' or 'as a woman' or 'as a dashingly attractive human being', but in this case, I think it's apropos.
First, I doubt anyone will particularly notice OR care if random straight people refuse to get married. The only way to make anyone notice or care that the reason a specific straight person isn't getting married is if they go around TELLING everyone, which makes them a fairly annoying kind of person (no offense to anyone who does this, just... I personally find it really annoying).
Second, I doubt people who are in charge of legislation give a fuck if some random straight people don't get married. Do something that makes them take notice. Donate to causes, protest, rally, suck men's cocks in front of senators (and film it :D!), anything that people who make laws NOTICE. Not marrying isn't gonna make them notice.
Third, religious people -- the ones who are extending this fight forever and ever and ever -- have already labeled you a sinner for believing in a different religion/gay rights/not believing in a God/whatever. I honestly don't think they will stop putting gay people to death.
Fourth, as a queer, that makes me uncomfortable. I don't want others to put their own lives on hold because I personally am not able to get married in many parts of this world (I am able in many other parts), assuming that I end up marrying a woman (not guaranteed).
Fifth, this listing thing is getting annoying, so I'll stop, but I'll keep making points. It's likely not right of me to question people's motives, but I often wonder exactly how big of a sacrifice this is -- I mean, okay, some people genuinely want to get married and believe that maybe they shouldn't if their gay friends can't, but some people, I think, might be hiding behind this to avoid commitment/getting married. Also, if you refuse to get married, I kinda wonder if all things being equal, you would want to get married at all. And then is it really making a point if you wouldn't do it anyway? I'm not accusing people of being dishonest, I'm just a bit... suspicious of people's motives. Not everyone's, I hasten to add.
Also, I'm a queer, and I WILL NOT WAIT UNTIL SAME SEX MARRIAGE IS LEGALIZED EVERYWHERE. I have no plans on waiting until the year 30,000. If I find a man or woman I like, and they like me back, I plan on marrying them. And I'm a little upset that if I marry a woman, it'll be considered taking advantage of the fact that I live in one of those areas that allow me to, but if I marry a guy, there'll be the subtle insinuation that I shouldn't partake in this hetero-ritual if queers can't. From some of my *friends*, specifically. I mean, they won't say it, but if they are doing this protest... it makes it sound like I shouldn't do it either.
Also, marriage allows for a lot of legal protections, and while I do appreciate fighting for queers getting it, I don't think one should deprive oneself of them! I'm not just talking about things like tax breaks, although those are nice.
Marriage allows one's spouse to visit one in a hospital, to make decisions as a proxy, to automatically get onto one's spouse's health insurance, to adopt children, protects spouses' rights to property (I don't believe in property rights, but if we have private property, we should at least take advantage of our right to keep it), etc. Granted, there are ways of getting around this IN THE LAW, but half of them aren't allowed to gays either -- and then one should deny oneself of THOSE.... I've lost track of exactly what point I was making, but seriously, I don't think that people are right in giving up legal protections. I understand the reasoning, but seriously, I'm not sure it's the greatest idea.
All in all, *I* don't intend to wait. And it seems ridiculous that some straight people, who can get married anywhere, are waiting around for queers to be allowed to marry everywhere, when many *QUEERS* aren't waiting for that!!