*mind currently in the gutter due to unreasonably tempting visuals*
This is goodness. Fluffy, but not too fluffy. And Jack's characterization ...
I like the idea of him being anything else than a captain, although I'd miss his almost proverbial 'Captain. Captain Jack Sparrow'!
Then again, it is canon that Barbossa hightailed out of it with the 'Pearl'. I doubt Jack'd get far with the little dinghy he took off with on his quest to find the Agua de Vida. Mind, he nearly drowned in the first movie.
I also imagine he'd enjoy pulling the strings in the background. He'd probably not remain in the background, he enjoys showing off too much, but the way you constructed his position and his function on the 'Notus' works.
Jack in a sarong, besides being a delicious image, is not off-character either --- although I'd expect him to at least leave his hat on ^__^
His clothing already is such a mismatched, rag-tag assortment of stuff that he can have no qualms dressing even more outrageously than he already does as a sailor. Yesterday I've been watching 'Shang High Noon' and the wild combination of highly decorated Chinese silk, Indian native bone jewellery and the cowboy hat made me think of Jack Sparrow, too.
He's not quite in the background; the crew knows who's really in charge, but most of them know Jack or have sailed with him before and are letting Bess keep her illusions. Really, they're sort of co-captains and he's certainly still introducing himself as Captain Jack Sparrow, just sailing under the Pirate King's colours for the time being.
Plus, Jack knows that the quartermaster's the ship's real power when they're not in battle. Bess is better in a crisis situation, but he's better with the munitae of day to day ship running. It really works nearly perfectly.
Have you see the photo from People? Pure insiration, I tell you. I think djarum99 has a most glorious icon of it. Anyhow, thank you so much for your comment :)
Shanghai Noon= great movie. I can also see bits of Jack there.
the quartermaster's the ship's real power when they're not in battle
Uhm... After having pitched headlong into 'Pirates' fanfiction I've been looking up a few nautical terms and such and have landed on this site. It doesn't give such a favourable account of the quartermaster's rank.
I also dimly remember having read about Sir Francis Drake's quartermaster as one of the ship's carpenters whose job merely was to represent the crew in formal decisions and to hold a place in a jury, should one happen to be held (in cases of Drake it was the conviction and beheading of Sir Thomas Doughty).
True? Ludicrous? Could you point me a to other websites on this topic, please?
It's my guess that this was not true in the Navy, whatsoever. I did notice, on the page you linked me, that the quartermaster received the same shares as the captain on Roberts' ship.
It's an interesting point made; I'm definitely going to have to look further into it. Essentially everything I've read is to the contrary, but I would be very interested in seeing what else I can dig up on this.
Thank you; pointers for books would be awesome. I love books and prefer them to any other source of information. Somehow they are getting the point across much better and it's easier to picture the athmosphere when reading a book.
I have read several biographies, including, but not limited to, Francis Drake, Admiral Nelson and Robert Cook and that's about it. They do contain information on the daily life on sea and a few nautical terms, but you merely get the information en passant and it's not much. In addition I have read that a few things have been done differently on pirate ships and only Drake, as a corsair, can be counted as such.
I'll be grateful for any book recommendation you will throw my way. Have run out of reading material anyway ^__^
I've just run out too. I'm waiting for a couple new books from the library.
What I've recently enjoyed was Under A Black Flag, Seafaring Women, and Pirates: Fact and Fiction all by David Cordingly. I'm waiting on An Empire of Blue Water about Henry Morgan.
Nothing to do with pirates or sailing, but I've also enjoyed The Essential Dracula and Elizabeth: Struggle for the Throne. It's my lot in life to be constantly looking for a new book to read.
I can supply a few book recommendations in return, if you like. Haven't got much on pirates, but have got a wide-ranged, versatile list of favourites. Interested?
More comments I've neglected. Whee! I would love book recommendations. I read constantly and voraciously.
Might I recommend Sex with Kings and Sex with the Queen, as a good faith offer? Both by Eleanor Something-German and very interesting-- a bit sordid, a little gossipy, and very fascinating.
I'd like to 'retaliate' with a list of my own favourites; you'll probably know some of them already, but I just love reading them time and time again:
Alexandre Dumas, The Count of Monte Christo Jules Verne, 20,000 Leagues Under The Seas Jane Austen, Pride And Prejudice Arthur Golden, Memoirs of a Geisha Patricia Cornwell, Portrait of a Killer Susan Cooper, Winter Solstice
For some lighter stuff, try Will Ferguson, Hokkaido Highway Blues Bill Bryson, News From a Big Country Tony Hawks, Round Ireland With a Fridge
This is goodness. Fluffy, but not too fluffy. And Jack's characterization ...
I like the idea of him being anything else than a captain, although I'd miss his almost proverbial 'Captain. Captain Jack Sparrow'!
Then again, it is canon that Barbossa hightailed out of it with the 'Pearl'. I doubt Jack'd get far with the little dinghy he took off with on his quest to find the Agua de Vida. Mind, he nearly drowned in the first movie.
I also imagine he'd enjoy pulling the strings in the background. He'd probably not remain in the background, he enjoys showing off too much, but the way you constructed his position and his function on the 'Notus' works.
Jack in a sarong, besides being a delicious image, is not off-character either --- although I'd expect him to at least leave his hat on ^__^
His clothing already is such a mismatched, rag-tag assortment of stuff that he can have no qualms dressing even more outrageously than he already does as a sailor. Yesterday I've been watching 'Shang High Noon' and the wild combination of highly decorated Chinese silk, Indian native bone jewellery and the cowboy hat made me think of Jack Sparrow, too.
Well, very nice one-shot, my dear. Good job!
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Plus, Jack knows that the quartermaster's the ship's real power when they're not in battle. Bess is better in a crisis situation, but he's better with the munitae of day to day ship running. It really works nearly perfectly.
Have you see the photo from People? Pure insiration, I tell you. I think djarum99 has a most glorious icon of it. Anyhow, thank you so much for your comment :)
Shanghai Noon= great movie. I can also see bits of Jack there.
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Uhm... After having pitched headlong into 'Pirates' fanfiction I've been looking up a few nautical terms and such and have landed on this site. It doesn't give such a favourable account of the quartermaster's rank.
I also dimly remember having read about Sir Francis Drake's quartermaster as one of the ship's carpenters whose job merely was to represent the crew in formal decisions and to hold a place in a jury, should one happen to be held (in cases of Drake it was the conviction and beheading of Sir Thomas Doughty).
True? Ludicrous? Could you point me a to other websites on this topic, please?
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It's an interesting point made; I'm definitely going to have to look further into it. Essentially everything I've read is to the contrary, but I would be very interested in seeing what else I can dig up on this.
Links!
http://www.kipar.org/piratical-resources/index.html
This is one of my favourites. It has a great chart of sea times.
I also use Wikipedia for quick checks and I have a range of books here, including Under the Black Flag that I use as reference materials.
I'll have to see if I can find anything else for you.
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I have read several biographies, including, but not limited to, Francis Drake, Admiral Nelson and Robert Cook and that's about it. They do contain information on the daily life on sea and a few nautical terms, but you merely get the information en passant and it's not much. In addition I have read that a few things have been done differently on pirate ships and only Drake, as a corsair, can be counted as such.
I'll be grateful for any book recommendation you will throw my way. Have run out of reading material anyway ^__^
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What I've recently enjoyed was Under A Black Flag, Seafaring Women, and Pirates: Fact and Fiction all by David Cordingly. I'm waiting on An Empire of Blue Water about Henry Morgan.
Nothing to do with pirates or sailing, but I've also enjoyed The Essential Dracula and Elizabeth: Struggle for the Throne. It's my lot in life to be constantly looking for a new book to read.
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I can supply a few book recommendations in return, if you like. Haven't got much on pirates, but have got a wide-ranged, versatile list of favourites. Interested?
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Might I recommend Sex with Kings and Sex with the Queen, as a good faith offer? Both by Eleanor Something-German and very interesting-- a bit sordid, a little gossipy, and very fascinating.
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I'd like to 'retaliate' with a list of my own favourites; you'll probably know some of them already, but I just love reading them time and time again:
Alexandre Dumas, The Count of Monte Christo
Jules Verne, 20,000 Leagues Under The Seas
Jane Austen, Pride And Prejudice
Arthur Golden, Memoirs of a Geisha
Patricia Cornwell, Portrait of a Killer
Susan Cooper, Winter Solstice
For some lighter stuff, try
Will Ferguson, Hokkaido Highway Blues
Bill Bryson, News From a Big Country
Tony Hawks, Round Ireland With a Fridge
Enjoy!
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