hi sug, this is lilu cause I forgot to sign in again. but my ain't you a crazy one? I'm not sure I got all you points cause you did kinda jump around there. but if I get any of them wrong please correct me. I agree that no modern white person should feel guilty cause of what someone else did. it's not like ethnic kids generations from now will feel guilty about gang bangers. it's crazy to feel bad about anything you didn't do yourself. also ethnic people are VERY VERY racist. hahahhaha it's true. what is culture? oh god that's a great question and what does it have to do with race identity? well culture to me is art, shared memories and language moslty. which cover a lot of things art covers writing, music, painting, dancing, theater ect. anything else that could be called art. shared memories are things that impacted a community, traditions that are similar through out a community, things that if you mentioned everyone in the culture could relate to, or a certain event, place or time everyone has their own story about. language, language is so extremely important to culture it's almost mind blowing. they way someone speaks tells you where they're from, tells you how they've lived and shows you a little piece of their out look on life. language weaves a community together language creates a culture. every type of culture and sub culture has their own language. it's amazing. what does this have to do with race identity? well of course the obvious was that in a certain time everybody kept to themselves divided by skin color and in a way developed their own culture.in modern times traditions from those cultures carry on in certain forms. so it's very hard to just dived yourself from it. but in modern times you can see many divides than just black culture or mexican culture. trust me mexicans from california are very different than mexicans from south texas. and while to a certain degree you know we all feel a brotherhood through certain shared memories we don't share the same culture entirely. an other interesting things is that even with in the black community their are a lot of immigrants from a lot of different countries. so while you know stuff like rap and low riders are a part of an american consciousness these immigrants feel the need to create their own culture here and also they effect the the community as a whole by bringing in their traditions. so race identity is still very important to ethnic culture cause there are always new immigrants coming in who need to feel safe. you know maybe you're from chile or mexico or argentina you need to feel a certain level of security and familiarity so you create your own place your own culture with other people like you. it goes for all immigrants, from africa, from india, from asia from anywhere. you see it less but still with white immigrants from europe. and I'm guessing what you're thinking of when you're asking is it still valid in society? is like second a third generation mexicans or say africans. and it is a little less valid there because we are american we've changed american society. we are a part of america. and you know we are very different than the people from our home country so to say. but like most of america we are also a sub culture because we have a related culture but a different one than immigrants do. we have shared memories that if we told someone of an other culture they wouldn't be able to relate. [& I say an other culture not race cause sometimes you know white kids grow up in the bario and they can] we have our own art and we have are own way of speaking. and while some of these things are very specific to where you're from others spread through out all of whatever race you are and connects us still. but like I said it's not just for people of a certain color someone who is white can relate to mexican stuff. but only if you really live it. see that's the thing you have to actually live it. and even then you're out look is slightly different cause you'll be aware that you know you're white or black or whatever and you'll get treated differently from time time cause of it. and your family will have different traditions and teach different lessons.
yeah, ethnic people ARE really racist. everything is so fucking hypocritical, it's almost frustrating. i really want to make some sort of change though. because it just isn't right. okay so the whole culture thing really complicates things. because i have too much respect for culture and tradition to support gentrification. i don't think that's right, but there has got to be a way for cultures to peacefully and respectfully coexist. we coexist, but too separately, in my opinion. i know, we seek out who we are similar to, outwardly first--we do it with the way we dress, the way we wear our hair, (and the colour of our skins?), i guess that's too ingrained..
actually living shit is the key to most things. it's like you can't just get a leather jacket if you don't earn it. i know...your outlook will always be shaped by that..it sort of depresses me because i want TO FEEL and to know so that i can really get it, you know? i want to experience it because i want to be able to actually relate it's so fucking impossible. i really hate being white in these times but i do love my background. it's so complicated.
this is lilu cause I forgot to sign in again.
but my ain't you a crazy one? I'm not sure I got all you points cause you did kinda jump around there. but if I get any of them wrong please correct me.
I agree that no modern white person should feel guilty cause of what someone else did. it's not like ethnic kids generations from now will feel guilty about gang bangers. it's crazy to feel bad about anything you didn't do yourself. also ethnic people are VERY VERY racist. hahahhaha it's true.
what is culture? oh god that's a great question and what does it have to do with race identity? well culture to me is art, shared memories and language moslty. which cover a lot of things art covers writing, music, painting, dancing, theater ect. anything else that could be called art. shared memories are things that impacted a community, traditions that are similar through out a community, things that if you mentioned everyone in the culture could relate to, or a certain event, place or time everyone has their own story about. language, language is so extremely important to culture it's almost mind blowing. they way someone speaks tells you where they're from, tells you how they've lived and shows you a little piece of their out look on life. language weaves a community together language creates a culture. every type of culture and sub culture has their own language. it's amazing. what does this have to do with race identity? well of course the obvious was that in a certain time everybody kept to themselves divided by skin color and in a way developed their own culture.in modern times traditions from those cultures carry on in certain forms. so it's very hard to just dived yourself from it. but in modern times you can see many divides than just black culture or mexican culture. trust me mexicans from california are very different than mexicans from south texas. and while to a certain degree you know we all feel a brotherhood through certain shared memories we don't share the same culture entirely. an other interesting things is that even with in the black community their are a lot of immigrants from a lot of different countries. so while you know stuff like rap and low riders are a part of an american consciousness these immigrants feel the need to create their own culture here and also they effect the the community as a whole by bringing in their traditions. so race identity is still very important to ethnic culture cause there are always new immigrants coming in who need to feel safe. you know maybe you're from chile or mexico or argentina you need to feel a certain level of security and familiarity so you create your own place your own culture with other people like you. it goes for all immigrants, from africa, from india, from asia from anywhere. you see it less but still with white immigrants from europe. and I'm guessing what you're thinking of when you're asking is it still valid in society? is like second a third generation mexicans or say africans. and it is a little less valid there because we are american we've changed american society. we are a part of america. and you know we are very different than the people from our home country so to say. but like most of america we are also a sub culture because we have a related culture but a different one than immigrants do. we have shared memories that if we told someone of an other culture they wouldn't be able to relate. [& I say an other culture not race cause sometimes you know white kids grow up in the bario and they can] we have our own art and we have are own way of speaking. and while some of these things are very specific to where you're from others spread through out all of whatever race you are and connects us still. but like I said it's not just for people of a certain color someone who is white can relate to mexican stuff. but only if you really live it. see that's the thing you have to actually live it. and even then you're out look is slightly different cause you'll be aware that you know you're white or black or whatever and you'll get treated differently from time time cause of it. and your family will have different traditions and teach different lessons.
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okay so the whole culture thing really complicates things. because i have too much respect for culture and tradition to support gentrification. i don't think that's right, but there has got to be a way for cultures to peacefully and respectfully coexist. we coexist, but too separately, in my opinion.
i know, we seek out who we are similar to, outwardly first--we do it with the way we dress, the way we wear our hair, (and the colour of our skins?), i guess that's too ingrained..
actually living shit is the key to most things. it's like you can't just get a leather jacket if you don't earn it. i know...your outlook will always be shaped by that..it sort of depresses me because i want TO FEEL and to know so that i can really get it, you know? i want to experience it because i want to be able to actually relate
it's so fucking impossible. i really hate being white in these times
but i do love my background. it's so complicated.
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