TeamFourStar Removed from YouTube

Aug 13, 2009 22:35


So Toei has flagged TeamFourStar & removed them from YouTube for copyright infringement. Yeah, it sucks. Especially since what TFS is actually doing with the DragonBall Z footage doesn't actually qualify as infringement. Sure if you look around on YouTube, you can find tons of fansubbed eps of DBZ all over. But when a parody series gets ( Read more... )

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giapet August 14 2009, 15:43:14 UTC
Important to bear in mind that Japanese copyright law is very different from American copyright law. Specifically, they don't have the same "fair use" laws, which in the US stipulate that you can use small amounts of copyrighted works for the purposes of parody, which is what would protect this sort of material.

The US is party to the Berne Convention, which doesn't appear to specify what counts as "fair practices" but leans heavily in favor of countries with more strict laws. As such-- and I am not any kind of lawyer, believe me --it may be in violation of international copyright law to reproduce the amounts of animation done here ( ... )

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nebs66 August 15 2009, 08:34:56 UTC
Thanks for the clarification. You've really done your homework on the subject. ^^

So does Japan's different views on fair use mean that licensed material from Japan can't be used worldwide, or just in Japan? In other words, did Toei remove the DBZ Abridged eps because they didn't want the content available to those who might watch it in Japan, or because no one had the right to watch it? Because if the former's the case, I'm sure they had other alternatives. In the past I've uploaded videos to YouTube, only for YT to reply back saying "Your video wont be viewable in Asia due to copyrights, but can still stay up for other regions." Or something along those lines.

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giapet August 15 2009, 14:49:13 UTC
As I said, because I can't find any Berne Convention text that clarifies, I'm not entirely sure which country's "fair use" law would apply, though from what I read I gather a court might find in favor of the heavier protections (or rather, fewer exceptions to copyright protection) of Japan.

That said, I would assume that Japan's fair use laws were originally primarily designed for use within Japan, such as they are. I can't speak to the video that you uploaded, not knowing its content or YouTube's policies (for all I know they were protecting themselves more than the copyright owners' rights). ;)

No, I was only suggesting that, not unlike Americans (who tend to assume that everyone's copyright law is like ours), the Japanese studios are coming from a viewpoint based on their own laws on the matter. I definitely wouldn't presume to understand why Toei or YouTube does what it does ^^;

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utensil_drawer August 14 2009, 23:51:29 UTC
Yeah, it's BS. NAS has been flagging AMVs lately, too. Hell, three of my videos that were in total accordance to the laws of Transformative Works were taken down. The irony being one was a fanmade commercial encouraging people to check out and buy the Eyeshield 21 anime. I guess they DON'T want more people buying it (since according to my reviews my commercial worked).

It's getting stupid, so if my account is removed because of 1+ year old vids, then so be it.
>^_^<
MEOW!

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nebs66 August 15 2009, 08:37:15 UTC
Tell me about it. I recently had a commercial for "Familiar of Zero III" taken down that I uploaded to YouTube well over a year ago. & now my account's in the red because they decided to take down free advertisement I put up ages ago? Give me a break. >_>

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Totally agree anonymous August 15 2009, 00:19:30 UTC
I've seen all this crap happening lately on YouTube, the same thing goes with the Bakugan: New Vestroia episodes, Which really, is just showing people in America what the new series is like, because face it, it's gonna be another year or two before they even get it over there, while it's still showing in Canada. It encourages the product, so why smack it down? The same goes for Dragonball, I haven't watched it in a long time, but watching the Abridged series got me to buy the manga and DVDs.

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Re: Totally agree anonymous August 17 2009, 10:39:43 UTC
New Vestroia has been out in America on Cartoon Network for months.

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Re: Totally agree anonymous August 18 2009, 22:10:56 UTC
Really? People keep saying it isn't. XD

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Re: Totally agree anonymous September 4 2009, 15:27:01 UTC
Thats mainly because people have largely given up on Cartoon Network as the american dubs tend to be far into the bad side of the continuum from "Best Attempt at honest translation" to "Holy crap wth is this it sucks really bad".

Also on top of that Cartoon network seems to be leaning toward using mostly their own cartoon product, very little of which is worth a viewing by a human being any age.

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