Крест поставлен на Путине, не на России

Sep 15, 2014 14:39

Как сказали мне западные десижн мейкеры, принимающие решения, обратного пути у Путина нет. То есть, чтобы он не сделал, стал бы вдруг миролюбивым, как Ганди, вернул бы Крым Украине или превратился бы в плюшевого чебурашку, на нем поставлен крест.

Был у одного моего друга знакомый, который учился в высшей школе КГБ тогда же, когда и Путин. И ( Read more... )

Россия, политика, Украина, антиамериканизм, демократия, Путин, США, дикатура, люди

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thoughts ... jstnxtguy September 17 2014, 08:31:01 UTC
Please apologize i write you in English!

Thanks for your "insight" and being the first person to make me finally write down my thoughts ...

One should give Putin the credit to have dissolved some of the "Wild West" situations the had become during Yeltsin presidency. I'm sure we can agree that Putin deserves some credit for the way he led with an iron hand Russia into some kind of stability. Stability is the very first requisite to build up a country and give its population the welfare that it deserves.

Of course did Putin not have the appropriate education to do this, but then ... but was there ever someone who had this kind of education before starting his office? The quality of a leader depends on his "vision", his force and the people he surrounds himself with. Because they are necessary to "realise" this vision. So the question remains are the Russian people OR the country itself the main subject of the leaders vision.

I'm not a Russian, my beloved partner is. My partner teaches at a prestigious institute in Moscow, worldwide renown to be the most prestigious one in his kind. Her monthly wage is 12'000RUB. That is less than the 47-65'000RUB a trolleybus driver could have (in Moscow of course). I think we can agree that a 50m2 flat in the Moscow region goes at least 5mill RUB., I would even say that the average would be in the 10 mill area. How are people supposed to be able to acquire their own "home" with such a ridiculous wage? Of course there a lot of rich people … but in a 14 million citizens city, they’re probably the minority (a class apart???). So in a certain way I feel a great inequity towards most people. Maybe the “Wild west” has gone “underground”???

Russia is a great, great country ... a country that has enormous possibilities and challenges, even without the need to expand again as it was during the communistic times. NATO a danger? Why would that be? The only reason for its existence today is to guarantee peace and to secure that no other war will be started. And to assure Putin: Yes, I don't believe Obama either, in fact I do believe that almost every politician has "lies" lying around.

I think it's up to Putin to decide if he goes in the history books as the one who brought welfare and high social standards to his fellow countrymen or that he will be remembered as the one that went to the battlefield to expand Russia again. Russia has already enough problems at home and as I recall from my youth an "advertising slogan" of Esso "There's a lot to do! Let's get started" ... and this goes not only for Putin, but he has to provide the tools/possibilities that EVERYONE wants to get started!

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Re: thoughts ... ext_2768006 September 17 2014, 21:33:26 UTC
All this understanding came to you while standing on your knees in front of your beloved partner?

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Re: thoughts ... jstnxtguy September 18 2014, 09:40:02 UTC
Strange remark ..

I have never been on my knees to a beloved one, I don't like theatrics because “love” is most of all a matter of "caring & doing" not "saying"! So, let's say that it 's primary a matter of maturity and life experience.

In your remark I feel a quite negative “tone” … I wonder why. I believe in the positive and I’m realistic enough that there is also negative. But I believe in the positive and that it returns positive emotions … Positive emotions are the “keys” that open all doors … no I’m not a dreamer.

I suppose that Yaroslev Gashek is not your name, but that you are just using a famous writer ‘s name. Why?

To end this reply I would like to bring your attention to a famous remark of John Dalberg-Acton: "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men." which is in a certain sense logical … people who are too good are run over by people who are hard and emotionless … because that are often the required competences to get the "dirty work" done ... will mankind ever find the right balance between positive and negative?

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Re: thoughts ... vvvnsk March 27 2016, 03:24:08 UTC
"I'm sure we can agree that Putin deserves some credit for the way he led with an iron hand Russia into some kind of stability. Stability is the very first requisite to build up a country and give its population the welfare that it deserves."

Do you really think that someone deserves some credit for terror to provide "stability"? Do Lenin and Stalin deserve some credit too?

Looks like you have a poor knowledge of Russian history and a bad ability to make right conclusions from the facts.

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Re: thoughts ... jstnxtguy March 27 2016, 17:46:54 UTC
Dear Vladimir,

I'm sure you did not understand the half of what i wrote. You did not understand that all what matters of Putin and his clan is filling the pockets (or accounts if you want). At that the the last of their priority is to provide REAL stability and welfare for the man in the street ... and that it's such a pity when one knows that they have the meanings and resources to do so ...

The only thing i'm sure of is that it even could have been worse ...

Regarding Russian history ... with all due respect but history is responsible for what (most) Russian are today ... figure it out!

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Re: thoughts ... vvvnsk March 29 2016, 06:33:34 UTC

I did understand and agree on your thoughts about the clan priorities.
But your comment contains some false statements on which I will never agree.

Regarding history, the US and Europe are responsible for what happened with Russia in 1917 and later. They supported communists to weak Russia and get advantage of this. Also they supported Stalin and are supporting Putin now ... figure it out!

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Re: thoughts ... jstnxtguy March 29 2016, 15:30:39 UTC
I now know that you don't know a thing about history! Probably you must have hallucinated ...
The early years of 20th century (1900-1917) America wasn't interfering the slightest with European, let stand Soviet politics! When the Bolshevik took power 7/8 november 1917 over the Tsar, European countries as well as the US decided to support the Tsar supporters. And then later in '29 when the crash in the US came and half of the population when broke they started to fear that communism would install itself in the US. They became parnoid about all and everybody what could be related to communism. So don't come tell me that America helped communism in the Soviet Union.
About Stalin ... that's where the Americans showed no real force, probably they weren't even interested how the power over Germany would be divided. But a year later, 1946, Trumann became aware that Stalin was not interested in the safety in europe, but most of all in gaining more and more power. And Stalin he stayed away from the US since they had become economically and military extremely powerful (remember they dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima in august 1945)

That the Americans are supporting Putin is the most hilarious statement I've ever heard. Probably that would be Putin's real big "wet dream" ...

Sorry Vladimir ... I don't know were you got your information, but it's far, far from accurate ... Maybe you had the wrong history books ...

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