I almost wasn't going to comment, because I just can't even think of much to SAY about this chapter. It felt like filler. I'm disappointed that, yet again, conflicts are resolved with no particular effort or tension: the ninja were doubtful a chapter ago, but now they aren't, because...reasons! Boring pointless filler. I'm disappointed that we're getting more 'let's punch a thing until it dies' battle, because we've been having that for ages and it's boring at this point. And I'm also disappointed in the half-assed philosophizing, because it isn't getting any more assed. Kakashi's blather about Obito's ~true feelings~ is sadly predictable; of course deep down Obito secretly believes in the cult-like allure of the ill-defined Will of Fire. And his banter with Naruto was dull as well. The things he says are just a bit vacuous, making it hard to feel all that impressed when the heroes manage to resist it. I guess the idea is that it has to be something a kid can think of a response to, but really, at this point I feel this is underestimating kids.
I'm also disappointed by Naruto's replying being just 'It's my ninja way'. So, he does a thing because that's the type of thing he likes doing. But really, it only begs the question 'why is that your ninja way?' It isn't an answer, and having that as the response to Obito made their exchange feel like filler as well. Not to mention they've pretty much already HAD that exchange in past chapters. It's like the plot is moving so slow it's started going backwards.
So yeah, just...disappointed by the filler-y nature of this chapter. And the general lagging pace of the arc. The whole Obito battle feels like it's trudging through molasses, the pacing is just not working for me. I think the main issue is a) things keep being repeated without really developing, and b) problems keep arising and being solved in successive chapters, making it feel like nothing is really progressing, random things just keep happening.
I'm still hoping things will pick up soon, and there HAVE been some good bits here and there, it's so...much...filler. But the pacing has got to pick up sometime...this is what I keep telling myself.
"I'm still hoping things will pick up soon, and there HAVE been some good bits here and there, it's so...much...filler. But the pacing has got to pick up sometime...this is what I keep telling myself. "
Exactly. There isn't anything specific I can complain about in the chapter, because overall I have enjoyed them, BUT the slow pacing is killing whatever bits of goodness the chapters contain.
In one of the chapters, it was commented by someone that "tomorrow" is Naruto's birthday. Apparently it hasn't arrived yet or we would know. I'm hoping with Naruto's birthday approaching we will see something happen.
I almost wasn't going to comment, because I just can't even think of much to SAY about this chapter. It felt like filler.
You are the first person to comment here, any you have writtten the longest comment in the chuuninthread. ;-) But I can understand you. There were times when the manga inspired me and made me think and dream, there were times when the manga made me angry (though some of this I attribute to the fans, not to Kishimoto) and inspired me to write long essays, but at the moment I am simply bored.
This "don't give up"-message has been repeated again and again. There's no intention to discuss it in any meaningful way, because this would imply that you admit that there are situations where not giving up makes sense, and other situations where giving up and looking for another way is more intelligent. Naruto turning this into his ninja way is quite stupid, actually. So the ninja who were on the point of giving up are not persuaded by arguments, but by Hashirama's charisma and enthusiasm.
There were times when I thought that the manga was engaging in some serious discussion of good and evil. The last chapter that gave me hope was the one when we learnt about that Tree of Life, but at the moment I am without hope.
lol, that is basically me, even when I have nothing to say I talk forever. XD
It's disappointing to me, because the manga really used to have interesting things happening and was thought-provoking, and I feel like the pacing is what's making me lose interest lately. If things were just moving along a bit faster, it would be better. I can only guess this has something to do with publication schedules, or maybe just Kishimoto being a bit tired after 10 years and taking longer to come up with new developments. Which would be very understandable, but still a bummer.
I really thought with the tree that something complex and interesting was about to happen, but then it was back to punching, sigh.
Maybe he's tired, maybe he has run out of ideas, and the only reason the manga continues is the fact that it is one of the most popular manga of the world, maybe he has written himself into a corner and opened more cans than he can deal with, which is why he is now resorting to simple, but hollow messages.
I'm also disappointed by Naruto's replying being just 'It's my ninja way'. So, he does a thing because that's the type of thing he likes doing. But really, it only begs the question 'why is that your ninja way?' It isn't an answer, and having that as the response to Obito made their exchange feel like filler as well. Not to mention they've pretty much already HAD that exchange in past chapters. It's like the plot is moving so slow it's started going backwards.
So yeah, just...disappointed by the filler-y nature of this chapter. And the general lagging pace of the arc. The whole Obito battle feels like it's trudging through molasses, the pacing is just not working for me. I think the main issue is a) things keep being repeated without really developing, and b) problems keep arising and being solved in successive chapters, making it feel like nothing is really progressing, random things just keep happening.
I'm still hoping things will pick up soon, and there HAVE been some good bits here and there, it's so...much...filler. But the pacing has got to pick up sometime...this is what I keep telling myself.
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Exactly. There isn't anything specific I can complain about in the chapter, because overall I have enjoyed them, BUT the slow pacing is killing whatever bits of goodness the chapters contain.
In one of the chapters, it was commented by someone that "tomorrow" is Naruto's birthday. Apparently it hasn't arrived yet or we would know. I'm hoping with Naruto's birthday approaching we will see something happen.
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You are the first person to comment here, any you have writtten the longest comment in the chuuninthread. ;-) But I can understand you. There were times when the manga inspired me and made me think and dream, there were times when the manga made me angry (though some of this I attribute to the fans, not to Kishimoto) and inspired me to write long essays, but at the moment I am simply bored.
This "don't give up"-message has been repeated again and again. There's no intention to discuss it in any meaningful way, because this would imply that you admit that there are situations where not giving up makes sense, and other situations where giving up and looking for another way is more intelligent. Naruto turning this into his ninja way is quite stupid, actually. So the ninja who were on the point of giving up are not persuaded by arguments, but by Hashirama's charisma and enthusiasm.
There were times when I thought that the manga was engaging in some serious discussion of good and evil. The last chapter that gave me hope was the one when we learnt about that Tree of Life, but at the moment I am without hope.
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It's disappointing to me, because the manga really used to have interesting things happening and was thought-provoking, and I feel like the pacing is what's making me lose interest lately. If things were just moving along a bit faster, it would be better. I can only guess this has something to do with publication schedules, or maybe just Kishimoto being a bit tired after 10 years and taking longer to come up with new developments. Which would be very understandable, but still a bummer.
I really thought with the tree that something complex and interesting was about to happen, but then it was back to punching, sigh.
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