To Traci (and anyone who's interested)

Sep 20, 2006 22:26

A small explanation in advance for the friends of mine who have no idea what I'm typing about::
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babydolgrl September 21 2006, 05:17:19 UTC
When I looked at the dress on ebay and other pics i've seen bfore, it was beautiful! It is definitely what someone who is a Mina fan will be looking for, I think Traci is very talented. No one is ever perfect at what they do and she has never claimed to be perfect, and trying to correct others is not right. She made the dress for herself and it was her right to make it the way she wanted to, not how you or anyone else wanted her to make it, because it was her's. Especially when you claim you are her supposed "friend". She was your friend when alot of other people wouldn;t be and this is how you respond to her. That wasn't contructive criticism you left, that was intentionally insulting your "friend". It seems like everything you ever write is negative in effect. I'm not a backpatter, i'm very opionated when it comes to things, but sometimes you should think before you speak/write and ask yourself is this appropriate before you start shooting posts off. She left a simple post and you turned it into drama. Obviously that is all you ( ... )

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pinque September 21 2006, 06:52:05 UTC
That would be me. I did it because so much ugliness was coming from people sharing half stories without the other half having a chance to be told. I can't say what the other side is as I wasn't there, so I don't think it's fair for me to then say "no no you're all wrong it really went like this ( ... )

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naergilien September 21 2006, 07:27:31 UTC
That would be me.

No, I think that comment was directed to Eveiya, who commented earlier than you... ;-)

but rather that the original photo was misleading because it was on a dummy not the actress? I think if you'd left it at that it would have been fine, it was the word disappointed that I think people have seen and are responding to.

That's what I actually meant and said (concerning the dummy)! And *if* someone does *not* know that this dummy picture shows the original gown, would buy the gown because of the dummy photo and receive it, *then* they would be disappointed because Tracis gown does not look like the original gown on that dummy.

But I think this all here is about something else. It's demonstrating the power of a longgg friends list over a short one, if I'm not too wrong. It's also about people who will constantly lie just to have 'friends'. I never wanted nor needed that.

I would never suggest anyone change their personality simply to conform, but I've found myself that I needed to either very carefully phrase a ( ... )

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pinque September 21 2006, 08:56:09 UTC
I thought it was in reference elsewhere, not over here:)

It's very easy to take it personally, in much the same way there is great debate about the art in recreation costumes or not. I personally feel there is very little art in recreating someone else's work, and I do it(!) but that doesn't mean that great beauty and skill aren't present or possible. Art is ephemeral and because of that so easy for it to be seen as more important than skill.
So costuming like the stage is very personal (at least I have foudn this in myself and in the online world and amongst people I have had personal interactions with.) You put your ideas out there and your skills for the public to see. And discuss. And usually long after you have finished it and can't make any changes;)

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naergilien September 21 2006, 07:35:51 UTC
When I looked at the dress on ebay and other pics i've seen bfore, it was beautiful! (...) I think Traci is very talented.

Pray tell, where did I ever say anything against what I just quoted from your comment. If you can't tell me where I said that (which you can't, because I never did...) then I wonder why you bring it up?

It is definitely what someone who is a Mina fan will be looking for, (...) She made the dress for herself and it was her right to make it the way she wanted to, not how you or anyone else wanted her to make it, because it was her's.
No objection against that she made it for herself, and that she could do so in whatever way she pleases.
However, if the gown is then labeled in an Ebay auction as a 'quasi screen accurate reproduction', then I can and have something to say about it. The auction in its original form gave the impression that the *original* gown shown on the dress mannequin showed what would be for sale in this auction, which was not correct.

She was your friend when alot of other people wouldn;t be ( ... )

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naergilien September 21 2006, 17:15:45 UTC
too bad only 1 person you know even wrote on your behalf, that's a clue right there on how you treat people.

By the way, I've just calculated it through, and you're right, it *does* tell me something.
Following is a mathematical analysis of this incident...

Traci has 396 mutual friends, plus 97 more people who list her as a friend but have not been friended in return. Makes 493 people in total.
On this bandwagon here jumped so far 6 of those people, which, mathematically, are 1.21% of all her friends.

I have 22 mutual friends, plus 12 more who list me; makes a total of 34 people. 2 from my side jumped on the bandwagon so far; makes 5.88% of my friends.

Hmmm, now what should that tell me, in your opinion?

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