Israeliness in all of its seriousness [israel, random, judaism, rl, public post]

[naatz]

While I procrastinate and drink my coffee, I want to talk about what it means to be Israeli. This is probably going to be one of a few posts on the subject

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[musicchan]

I'm not sure I entirely agree that it's all about being Israli. I'm not saying you don't have your own specific social traditions, but much of what I read is not foreign to my own family life. People who don't understand those sort of interactions seem like they must be from extremely small families. I guess I just don't understand how people can think of your way of being as so foreign. I certainly don't. Maybe that's because I've known you for so long, but I don't think it's just that.

Also, I think you forgot a very important aspect. Yes, certainly we act in ways that reflect how we were raised, but there is also the aspect of THE INTERNET that must be accounted for. In real life, I am extraordinarily quiet and considered a nice person. On the internet, I generally speak my mind a bit more (because I don't have to deal with you face to face =p ) and people tend to be more gregarious than they might otherwise be.

Of course, in real life, we tend to know a much smaller sample of people so there is really only so much you can discuss. On the internet, you know all sorts of people from all sorts of places and there is more to argue about because the more people there are, the more different viewpoints will be present. And after a while, everyone just starts to assume that other people are trying to argue with them when they're expressing an opinion.

Perhaps it's not you who is being "too outspoken", but rather the other people who are misconstruing what you said because of their own preconceived notions about other people.

That would make for a facinating study of the human nature, I think.

[naatz]

It's not all about being Israeli, true, but it's about expectations from others. I'm actually a lot more polite online {and in English} than I am in Hebrew. I don't act all that differently online and offline. I don't feel like I can be a whole lot more aggressive online than off -- maybe it influences more people who come from more politeness-demanding societies? I don't know. It's like they say 'oooooooooh, INTERWEBZ. I CAN BE ANGRY HERE.'

I met a lot of different people here. I didn't go to {elementary} school with people like me, I wasn't in the military with people like me, in Jerusalem I'm not exactly with people like me. Like I said, Israel is a lot more heterogeneous than the US, simply because there's no place to ghetto {unless you're Haredi/Arab}.

Yes, it is interesting, but I'm not going to start that sort of study. :P

You ARE fairly blunt and direct in RL. You just choose your timing well. Or maybe I just know you too well.

I miss ya. ♥ Poke that Onii-chan mine and tell him I miss him too.

|Meduza|

[musicchan]

He has been poked accordingly. :)

I can be rather blunt in real life, though I think I am MORE so with people I know online, simply because I've already shown that I'm not as quiet and shy as I usually appear to be. I am rather shy, actually. I have troubles talking to people face-to-face if I don't already know them. But once I DO get to know a person, I tend to be more open with them.