Re: Add me...mr_presidentOctober 2 2007, 02:22:22 UTC
Just as a follow-up, was it the use of profanity that was offensive? Or was it my strong personal opinion against an authoritarian government?
You seem to be the kind of person who can understand herself and is sensitive to the world enough to articulate exactly what she's experiencing and turn that into something good. Would you say that the post was just too harsh overall? Or was a central argument missing like, instead of profanity, saying that "Instead of China, we should support a Liberal Rights-based Democracy, like India, with our billions of trade dollars"? (I didnt go that route, becase people roll their eyes at that sort of talk -- but would it have been better?). Do you agree with the argument i made.. or did is sound racist? Maybe i should have said "China" instead of "the Chinese"? Was that the core mistake? Hm, sorry, im trying to understand.
I ask this sincerely. My intention was to take a stand against support for a military government that would kill innocent monks, to stand against genocide, and to directly state that there are better countries that our money can go to -- countries who promote good in this world. I'm not trying to be a bad person, but from your response, i guess i feel like i came across that way. And would just be interested in your thoughts on that, further than a goodbye. I don't feel im here to offend people, but to do some good in the world. But thats hard to do when 90% of people wont read more than 1 paragraph on Burma or China or US policy. So you ask yourself -- how do you communicate with those 90% more effectively to help change their minds and make more informed decisions? If you read this far, then i value your opinion on it. Even some small insight. If not interested, sorry for taking your time.
What really turned me off was the fact that you condemned the entire Chinese race rather than China's government. The regime is the problem, not the populace. I couldn't care less if you use profanity.
I realize that censoring yourself can be fucking exhausting. But in the future, you might want to try avoiding generalizations like "China is a terrible country" or "Fuck the Chinese."
Re: Add me...mr_presidentOctober 2 2007, 03:58:20 UTC
I like that you noted that censoring yourself is exhausting. That shows a good amount of fairness in how you think -- and one of the reasons i asked your opinion. See, you made me think about what i said -- and no, i dont think its exhausting on this kind of a subject. Since i majored in International Political Economy and East Asian Studies, this stuff is really important to me, and i will always gladly hear someone out about it.
Since you pointed something out to me, i was able to think about it and in thinking about it, realized i had unintentionally said something racist, instead of focusing on policy. In my opinion, that made the conversation worth while. However, i will make generalization mistakes again.. lol. Feedback always welcome (i actually have a MySpace with a thousand people or whatever subscribed to my blog -- i use LJ, Blogger, and Xanga to test my thoughts before putting them in front of way way more people. So, TRULY, feedback is always welcome -- dont be afraid to have a strong opinion. The voice of people who are thoughtful and feel strongly always has impact. Sometimes i wish the world was just a bunch of happy geekiness...
I wonder why i spend so much time on the more awful subjects, but i just honestly believe we have to keep talking about them to get out of them.
You seem to be the kind of person who can understand herself and is sensitive to the world enough to articulate exactly what she's experiencing and turn that into something good. Would you say that the post was just too harsh overall? Or was a central argument missing like, instead of profanity, saying that "Instead of China, we should support a Liberal Rights-based Democracy, like India, with our billions of trade dollars"? (I didnt go that route, becase people roll their eyes at that sort of talk -- but would it have been better?). Do you agree with the argument i made.. or did is sound racist? Maybe i should have said "China" instead of "the Chinese"? Was that the core mistake? Hm, sorry, im trying to understand.
I ask this sincerely. My intention was to take a stand against support for a military government that would kill innocent monks, to stand against genocide, and to directly state that there are better countries that our money can go to -- countries who promote good in this world. I'm not trying to be a bad person, but from your response, i guess i feel like i came across that way. And would just be interested in your thoughts on that, further than a goodbye. I don't feel im here to offend people, but to do some good in the world. But thats hard to do when 90% of people wont read more than 1 paragraph on Burma or China or US policy. So you ask yourself -- how do you communicate with those 90% more effectively to help change their minds and make more informed decisions? If you read this far, then i value your opinion on it. Even some small insight. If not interested, sorry for taking your time.
No pressure.
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I realize that censoring yourself can be fucking exhausting. But in the future, you might want to try avoiding generalizations like "China is a terrible country" or "Fuck the Chinese."
Anyway, I'll add you back.
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Since you pointed something out to me, i was able to think about it and in thinking about it, realized i had unintentionally said something racist, instead of focusing on policy. In my opinion, that made the conversation worth while. However, i will make generalization mistakes again.. lol. Feedback always welcome (i actually have a MySpace with a thousand people or whatever subscribed to my blog -- i use LJ, Blogger, and Xanga to test my thoughts before putting them in front of way way more people. So, TRULY, feedback is always welcome -- dont be afraid to have a strong opinion. The voice of people who are thoughtful and feel strongly always has impact. Sometimes i wish the world was just a bunch of happy geekiness...
I wonder why i spend so much time on the more awful subjects, but i just honestly believe we have to keep talking about them to get out of them.
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