Hi. I hope I don't come off as stalker-y here, but I recently added your LJ to my friendslist while searching for quality Heroes slash. I know I'm late to the game, but I'm finally learning to appreciate the idea of Petrellicest thanks to your Ritual series.
I'm also rekindling my love for the show thanks to the G4 marathon last Saturday and the new Fugitives storyline. So I guess I'm moving in the opposite direction compared to some of the show's fans.
I missed out on most of the first half of S3 due to life/work angsty stuff (read: I quit my job and moved back East), so I had to play catch up. And I'm glad I did because the first half of S3 wasn't nearly as frustrating or as bad as I think some fans let on. Or maybe it's just easier to enjoy when you're watching each episode back-to-back and each disappointment (the Haiti "prison" camp) is followed by genuine squee (Robert Forster's scary awesomeness).
Enough of my intro. :-D I loved your recap. I enjoyed this episode a lot, so I'm happy to know I'm not the only one.
Some of my thoughts:
* I actually like Hiro's affection for Ando now. For too long, it's felt like Ando has had a sycophantic devotion to Hiro. So it's nice to see Hiro show the devotion in kind. Their relationship actually feels more like true friendship now, instead of something more one-sided.
* I thought the conversation between Mohinder and Peter in the cab was cute. Intentionally repetitive, but less ominous and forced than the first time we heard it.
* Peter's going to have intimacy issues with all these family members asking for a hug right before they betray him. Poor Pete. So trusting. So stupid.
* My guess is the SuperDuper Formula gave Pete his natural powers back, but a new way to absorb them from other specials. Interesting.
* Another interesting catch, as a AP fan anyway, is the EMT who mentioned that he's from Iran, so he's worried about Nathan's Gitmo plans. I couldn't help but smirk at that knowing that Pasdar is half-Iranian, but he's passing for Italian on the show.
* So not buying Claire as the action heroine. I find her "Ripley" about as believable as low-fat cheesecake. Just so you know, I'm not a Claire fan, but I do try to be fair.
Overall, I like Evil!Nathan. Hell, I like Nathan pretty much any way I can get him. (In the S1, he was my second fav character after Hiro.) I don't actually think he's evil at all though. Morally ambiguous, yes; but not evil. But if he is supposed to be evil, Adrian is playing him wrong because I don't believe for five seconds that he's sincere about his locking-up-all-the-specials-will-keep-us-all-safe schtick. It just rings hollow to me. Like Nathan has something else planned that not even his crackerjack team fully understand.
Of course, I could just be in denial. :-) It wouldn't be the first time.
I hope I don't come off as stalker-y here Pish and poppycock! No stalkery activity bothers me as long as you don't call me in the middle of the night or dig through my trash for incriminating little empty plastic baggies.
the first half of S3 wasn't nearly as frustrating or as bad as I think some fans let on. No, it's not - it's brilliant. I honestly don't know what the "fans" are talking about half the time - if they are so angry and they hate it so much, why in the world are they watching? I mean, hell, when I got fed up with Lost, I stopped watching. Then I came back because... well, I'm in love with Jeremy Davies, and I'm even more in love with Brian K. Vaughn, and his writing really did improve the show. So... whatever, y'know?
I thought the conversation between Mohinder and Peter in the cab was cute. Oh, I thought so too - I hope I didn't give the impression that I didn't like it. I thought it was a lovely and thoughtful callback to the first episode; they are pretty good at that.
I couldn't help but smirk at that knowing that Pasdar is half-Iranian, but he's passing for Italian on the show. All those middle-european-eastern white people are pretty much interchangable as far as TV is concerned. See also: Asians, Africans, Hispanics. ;)
But if he is supposed to be evil, Adrian is playing him wrong because I don't believe for five seconds that he's sincere about his locking-up-all-the-specials-will-keep-us-all-safe schtick. It just rings hollow to me. Like Nathan has something else planned that not even his crackerjack team fully understand. There is, of course, always that possibility, and would genuinely be the most ideal path. If the writers can pull that off in a satisfying way, I will be in ecstasy. I really want them to do more with the Hyper-Smart Nathan concept, because really, he is one of the brighter characters on the show, even if he does make some fucked up and stupid choices sometimes. But he wouldn't have been able to have the life he's had without being some kind of genius - I mean, really, he must have gotten through law school in like, two years!
I just love Peter as an EMT. The short-sleeved uniform looks REALLY good on him. And that's a career path I was hoping he would take eventually - who better to show up at emergency scenes and save lives? Poor guy; it must be hard having once had Linderman's ability, and now being in a situation where he needs it, and know that he doesn't have it anymore.
Poor guy; it must be hard having once had Linderman's ability, and now being in a situation where he needs it, and know that he doesn't have it anymore.
Was he actually aware that he had Linderman's ability though? I don't recall him ever acknowledging or using it onscreen, but I could've missed something. I've always been hesitant to refer to this in my fics, rps and stuff because I wasn't sure.
Ohhhhh. Yeah, that would actually make sense. And Peter and Linderman were in the same room together at Arthur and Angela's anniversary party round about the time that his power would've first manifested.
Ha, hey, that's the most solid theory I've heard! Thanks for clarifying that :D
the first half of S3 wasn't nearly as frustrating or as bad as I think some fans let on. No, it's not - it's brilliant. I honestly don't know what the "fans" are talking about half the time - if they are so angry and they hate it so much, why in the world are they watching?) No kidding! I absolutely ADORED S3 (other than the Adam Incident. T__T) but yeah, these so called "fans" if they don't like it, they don't need to watch it. >_>
I mean, hell, when I got fed up with Lost, I stopped watching. Then I came back because... well, I'm in love with Jeremy Davies, and I'm even more in love with Brian K. Vaughn, and his writing really did improve the show. So... whatever, y'know?) lol when Lost first came on I watched a few episodes then stopped, but then when S2 came around I started watching again and fell in love with the show (I didn't like Sawyer's asshole attitude in S1 but then S2 came around and I'm like mmm Sawyer <3 and mmm Jawyer and all of that lol. And this season! Guh! First of all, so many awesome new characters like Daniel and Miles (Charlotte's okay I guess) and so much slashy potential from S4--and even more this season that it almost breaks my brain from the awesome, lol.)
I'm also rekindling my love for the show thanks to the G4 marathon last Saturday and the new Fugitives storyline. So I guess I'm moving in the opposite direction compared to some of the show's fans.
I missed out on most of the first half of S3 due to life/work angsty stuff (read: I quit my job and moved back East), so I had to play catch up. And I'm glad I did because the first half of S3 wasn't nearly as frustrating or as bad as I think some fans let on. Or maybe it's just easier to enjoy when you're watching each episode back-to-back and each disappointment (the Haiti "prison" camp) is followed by genuine squee (Robert Forster's scary awesomeness).
Enough of my intro. :-D I loved your recap. I enjoyed this episode a lot, so I'm happy to know I'm not the only one.
Some of my thoughts:
* I actually like Hiro's affection for Ando now. For too long, it's felt like Ando has had a sycophantic devotion to Hiro. So it's nice to see Hiro show the devotion in kind. Their relationship actually feels more like true friendship now, instead of something more one-sided.
* I thought the conversation between Mohinder and Peter in the cab was cute. Intentionally repetitive, but less ominous and forced than the first time we heard it.
* Peter's going to have intimacy issues with all these family members asking for a hug right before they betray him. Poor Pete. So trusting. So stupid.
* My guess is the SuperDuper Formula gave Pete his natural powers back, but a new way to absorb them from other specials. Interesting.
* Another interesting catch, as a AP fan anyway, is the EMT who mentioned that he's from Iran, so he's worried about Nathan's Gitmo plans. I couldn't help but smirk at that knowing that Pasdar is half-Iranian, but he's passing for Italian on the show.
* So not buying Claire as the action heroine. I find her "Ripley" about as believable as low-fat cheesecake. Just so you know, I'm not a Claire fan, but I do try to be fair.
Overall, I like Evil!Nathan. Hell, I like Nathan pretty much any way I can get him. (In the S1, he was my second fav character after Hiro.) I don't actually think he's evil at all though. Morally ambiguous, yes; but not evil. But if he is supposed to be evil, Adrian is playing him wrong because I don't believe for five seconds that he's sincere about his locking-up-all-the-specials-will-keep-us-all-safe schtick. It just rings hollow to me. Like Nathan has something else planned that not even his crackerjack team fully understand.
Of course, I could just be in denial. :-) It wouldn't be the first time.
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Pish and poppycock! No stalkery activity bothers me as long as you don't call me in the middle of the night or dig through my trash for incriminating little empty plastic baggies.
the first half of S3 wasn't nearly as frustrating or as bad as I think some fans let on.
No, it's not - it's brilliant. I honestly don't know what the "fans" are talking about half the time - if they are so angry and they hate it so much, why in the world are they watching? I mean, hell, when I got fed up with Lost, I stopped watching. Then I came back because... well, I'm in love with Jeremy Davies, and I'm even more in love with Brian K. Vaughn, and his writing really did improve the show. So... whatever, y'know?
I thought the conversation between Mohinder and Peter in the cab was cute.
Oh, I thought so too - I hope I didn't give the impression that I didn't like it. I thought it was a lovely and thoughtful callback to the first episode; they are pretty good at that.
I couldn't help but smirk at that knowing that Pasdar is half-Iranian, but he's passing for Italian on the show.
All those middle-european-eastern white people are pretty much interchangable as far as TV is concerned. See also: Asians, Africans, Hispanics. ;)
But if he is supposed to be evil, Adrian is playing him wrong because I don't believe for five seconds that he's sincere about his locking-up-all-the-specials-will-keep-us-all-safe schtick. It just rings hollow to me. Like Nathan has something else planned that not even his crackerjack team fully understand.
There is, of course, always that possibility, and would genuinely be the most ideal path. If the writers can pull that off in a satisfying way, I will be in ecstasy. I really want them to do more with the Hyper-Smart Nathan concept, because really, he is one of the brighter characters on the show, even if he does make some fucked up and stupid choices sometimes. But he wouldn't have been able to have the life he's had without being some kind of genius - I mean, really, he must have gotten through law school in like, two years!
I just love Peter as an EMT. The short-sleeved uniform looks REALLY good on him. And that's a career path I was hoping he would take eventually - who better to show up at emergency scenes and save lives? Poor guy; it must be hard having once had Linderman's ability, and now being in a situation where he needs it, and know that he doesn't have it anymore.
Everybody sing along... "Poor Peter..."
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Was he actually aware that he had Linderman's ability though? I don't recall him ever acknowledging or using it onscreen, but I could've missed something. I've always been hesitant to refer to this in my fics, rps and stuff because I wasn't sure.
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But since no one knows for sure how he came back to life, we're all just grasping at straws.
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Ha, hey, that's the most solid theory I've heard! Thanks for clarifying that :D
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No, it's not - it's brilliant. I honestly don't know what the "fans" are talking about half the time - if they are so angry and they hate it so much, why in the world are they watching?)
No kidding! I absolutely ADORED S3 (other than the Adam Incident. T__T) but yeah, these so called "fans" if they don't like it, they don't need to watch it. >_>
I mean, hell, when I got fed up with Lost, I stopped watching. Then I came back because... well, I'm in love with Jeremy Davies, and I'm even more in love with Brian K. Vaughn, and his writing really did improve the show. So... whatever, y'know?)
lol when Lost first came on I watched a few episodes then stopped, but then when S2 came around I started watching again and fell in love with the show (I didn't like Sawyer's asshole attitude in S1 but then S2 came around and I'm like mmm Sawyer <3 and mmm Jawyer and all of that lol. And this season! Guh! First of all, so many awesome new characters like Daniel and Miles (Charlotte's okay I guess) and so much slashy potential from S4--and even more this season that it almost breaks my brain from the awesome, lol.)
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