Mutant X Interviews: Karen Cliche (11/03 SciFi Talk)
SciFi Talk 10/11/03: Karen Cliche
Mutant X
Lauren Lee Smith who was Emma DeLauro on seasons one and two, is gone. Replacing her is Karen Cliche from Adventure Inc's as new Mutant, Lexa Pierce, who can manipulate light in various ways. She has a mysterious past which could haunt her in futuire episodes. Fans have already started bring back Emma campaigns on the Mutant X message boards. I liked Lauren and I thought her character made some strides. I wish her well. Series starts September 29th. I wish Karen well in her new role. I'll be setting up interviews so stay tuned.
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Forbes March: Hi, my name is Forbes March. I play Jesse Kilmartin on the show Mutant X. And you're listening to Sci Fi Talk.
Tony Tellado: On this edition of Sci Fi Talk, a conversation with actress Karen Cliche, who joins the Mutant X team as Lexa Pierce, a mutant who has the ability to bend light and make herself invisible, in addition to using all kinds of light-related powers.
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Her film work includes Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde with Adam Baldwin and also Riders with Natasha Hendstrige and Steven Dorff. Fans might remember her from the UPN series that aired last year, All Souls, about a haunted hospital. I had the chance to contact Karen Cliche at her home in Canada after she had just finished shooting for the day on the television series Mutant X.
Karen Cliche: I just got home from work!
Tony: Oh, yeah? You're off the rest of the day, huh?
Karen (laughing): I am!
Tony: Oh, that's great. That's great.
Karen: And I'm all yours.
Tony: How did you wrangle that deal, huh?
Karen: You know, I know the right people.
Tony (laughing): There you go. Hey, I'm really happy for you that, to be serious for a second here, that you got this gig. Especially after Adventure Inc., unfortunately didn't make it.
Karen: Yeah. Oh no, it was such great news when they, as you know, it's the same producers behind it.
Tony: Right, right.
Karen: And when we found out that Adventure Inc. wasn't coming back for sure, they asked me to do this. And I was like, wow. I mean, I was so honored, you know?
Tony: Sure, sure.
Karen: I said wow, that's a really, really cool thing. So, thank you. Yeah, it was great.
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Tony: My family was mostly boys, and we've all had girls, so go figure that one.
Karen: Oh, really?
Tony: Yeah, I mean, you know, I have a daughter. Although, I adopted mine, so I kinda knew.
Karen: Oh, did you adopt yours?
Tony: Yeah, I did.
Karen: Did you adopt her in Canada?
Tony: No, no, I'm in the U.S.
Karen: Oh, I mean, I mean, sorry, sorry, in the U.S.
Tony: Yeah, she's American. I became an American citizen, 'cause I was born in Cuba, actually.
Karen: Were you? Ah.
Tony: Yeah, I was, yeah. And so, I adopted her. And she's off at college right now, trying
to...she's going to become a teacher, so I'm really proud of her.
Karen: Wow, good for her.
Tony: Special education. Really doing some good stuff.
Karen: Good.
Tony: Yeah, absolutely. And all my brothers have had girls.
Karen: Wow.
Tony: Go figure. Except for one other boy, there is one boy, my nephew Mark.
Karen (laughing): Lucky guy.
Tony: So that means that the future of the family is going to survive.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: The name will still be around, thank God.
Karen: That's a lot of pressure!
Tony: I'll tell ya.
Karen: Well, you know, what, these days, girls keep their names.
Tony: Yes, they do.
Karen: So, and I plan on doing so, so, you know, if you're lucky, though, you know, your legacy will go on and on.
Tony: There you go. Absolutely.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: You are now working with a group of people, I've had the chance to speak to all of them.
Karen: Oh, did you? Like, Vicky and Victor and John?
Tony: Oh, yeah, throughout the years, you know?
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: I started in year one, and you know, I talked to John first, and talked about the series. And then the last one was Forbes, just last year.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: And I even spoke to...you know...played Emma, Lauren Lee Smith.
Karen: Yeah, yeah.
Tony: Liked her as an actress. I liked her character, but I thought they had kind of reached an impasse as to where to take her this past year.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: What I like about your character...
Karen: Come on, give it to me!
Tony: Yeah, yeah! ...is that you add a little bit of spice to the show.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: You know, it's like you kind of stir things up a little bit.
Karen: Have you seen it? Have you seen the past episodes?
Tony: I have. I've seen most of them. I've only seen -- I've been lucky, the times I've tuned in, you've been on the screen, so...
Karen: Right.
Tony: There was one scene that I thought was perfect for the character, that kind of defines you. Where you're with Forbes, and, you know, Forbes is doing his tech stuff. You know, he's really good with the computers.
Karen: Right.
Tony: And he's doing that. And you say to him, "Yeah, you'd better do this, or you'd better do that." And he kind of looks at you, like, "Yeah, right, like I didn't think of this," you know?
Karen: Yeah, yeah.
Tony: And I kind of like that little tension, though. I think it's kind of neat, you know?
Karen: Yeah. You know what they've done with me and Forbes's characters, is that they've
really...because Lexa comes into this with such a wall around her.
Tony: Oh, and a mystery too.
Karen: Yeah, exactly. With all this stuff that she does not want to give in. She does not want to be there. She is there for one purpose, which you actually do find out in maybe about...five, six weeks, I think, by the time they air? Why she's really there, you know, because she comes in and is all resistant, and everyone is like, "Well, what's your problem? Get out of here. What are you doing here?" Right? But She's got a real purpose for being there. And what they're doing with Jesse and Lexa's characters, which is fun, because Jesse kind of is the only one who opens up to her, who really, really tries to get her to open up. And she trusts him a little bit, but she's not going to give in right away. So I think they're really building such a really good friendship with those two characters.
Tony: Oh, actually, I see a little bit more than friendship.
Karen (laughing): Come on now, stop it! What are you insinuating?
Tony: I don't know.
Karen: I have no idea what you are talking about.
Tony: I don't know, there's something there. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't know.
Karen: A little tension?
Tony: (laughing) Maybe, maybe a little sexual tension, or something?
Karen: Come on, now! You know what? I, honestly, we're on our 11th episode right now that we're shooting, and we haven't touched that yet. So, I don't know.
Tony: Okay.
Karen: I really don't even know. And Forbes and I have asked ourselves, "Ooo, are we gonna kiss?" [laughs] Like, that could be weird! But I don't know where we're gonna go with that.
Tony: Well, you came close. He gave you mouth to mouth.
Karen (laughing): I know, it was wonderful.
Tony: So that was like, well there you go, you know. And I did talk to Forbes; he's a lot of
fun.
Karen: Yeah, he's great. No, we have so much fun on this show. It is so fantastic, you know. And I knew the bunch a bit from about year before I got onto the show, just because the circumstances had led us to interact at parties, and this and that. And I just fell in love, especially with Vicky. Vicky and I are pretty much the same person, split in two. One has dark hair; one has light hair. That's about it.
Tony: Oh, that's terrific.
Karen: We have so much fun. Yeah, it's really cool.
Tony: You know, when I first heard what was going to happen, I said, "Well, Mutant X is gonna
be four now." I said, "Adam is not really going to be there anymore, and we've lost Emma."
Karen: Mm-hm.
Tony: So it's like, well, I don't know, you know? I was a little hesitant. They went through, this second year, I mean, you've only just come into it, but they went through a lot of changes, 'cause they kind of lost their ace villain this past year.
Karen: Yeah, mm-hm.
Tony: And they kind of had to find themselves. And they stumbled a little bit this year. I'll be honest with you, they did.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: But then, I thought they found themselves at the end of the year.
Karen: Mm-hm.
Tony: And now to do this, I was like, well, this is really a drastic move here. But then I watched. I said, "Let me see it and see what it looks like." And I said, "You know something? For some reason, to me, it works better with just four of them, now."
Karen: Right.
Tony: You know? There's something better.
Karen: Well, I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, because you know, it was a tricky thing, a lot of changes. And when you have, you know, people that are used to seeing the show a certain way and having the same characters, you know, two years is not a huge amount of time, but it's long enough to get attached to people, right?
Tony: Sure.
Karen: And so me, coming into this, I was like, "Oh, God! You know, it's gonna be kind of strange to come in to break this mold, especially not to be this really likeable person. And now, with all these changes, and with John Shea gone and Lauren, and..." You know, it was a lot of--but I'm glad that you said that. I'm glad that you like it, because it has taken a different turn. The show in itself is less action; it's more character driven, et cetera et cetera. So it is a bit of a different show. But, you know, hopefully, it's for the better.
Tony: The lessons they'd learned last year.
Karen: Mm-hm.
Tony: Because last year was -- the best two words to describe last year: Growing pains. You know.
Karen: Really, yeah.
Tony: And now this year, it's like they've already learned those lessons.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: And, I mean, you know, the episode where Victor's going undercover, they go into a casino.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: There's an episode where you're tracking a serial killer.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: It's like, oh, okay. Now they're--
Karen: Putting it to use, right?
Tony: They're putting their gifts to use. Before it was always like, the mutants, suppressing of mutants, and mutants' rights and things like that. Well, now it's like, well, let's just kind of use our powers out there and really put them to good use.
Karen: Yeah. Yeah, that's a really good way of putting it, actually. Now they've all grown up and learned, and now let's go.
Tony: Yeah, yeah.
Karen: Let's take it on. And that's a really, really cute way to describe it. It's true.
Tony: What is it that you like best about Lexa Pierce?
Karen: You know, I always end up playing similar characters. I think because I understand so much the kind of building up a wall around you to kind of protect yourself because you're such mush inside, and you've been hurt. And then you come in with that wall, and then what I like about playing the character is that slowly it starts to break down. So it's the opposite, instead of progressively going somewhere to go, you kind of do the opposite. You know, so as my character, I kind of start to break down those walls and start becoming more vulnerable. And so that's fun because every episode, or every couple of episodes that we touch on those things, you see a little bit more, that's like the unveiling of the real Lexa.
Tony: Yeah.
Karen: Who is this really sweet, soft person inside, which is so typical of usually the big hard asses we have in life, the hard ass people we meet in real life.
Tony: Yeah.
Karen: They're just scared little people inside.
Tony: Yeah.
Karen: And they just want to be loved, but they're just so afraid to get hurt that they just become these either, you know, tyrants or just mean people. And really, they're just the softest people inside. So I kind of like playing her because you get to reveal some stuff, and she gets to be vulnerable instead of being vulnerable and then having to toughen up. That's just kind of another way to play it. [laughing] And it's fun to be a little bit of a bitch! It's just a little something that's more interesting.
Tony: Yeah, to give her kind of a shadow.
Karen: Yeah. And you kind of challenge the other guys, because they're all really goodhearted people. And come in there and say, "Hey, don't be so naive and look at it this way." Just, it gives it a whole, you know, another side to life.
Tony: I hope they kind of keep that point of view in the series.
Karen: Oh, they do.
Tony: And don't soften her up too much.
Karen: No.
Tony: 'Cause it's good to keep her with a little bit of an edge.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: Maybe, every once in a while tick one of the other guys off, you know?
Karen (laughing): Oh, yeah, she still does.
Tony: Oh, that's good.
Karen: Still does. I mean, her and Brennan have quite a -- their relationship is a little more competitive.
Tony: Yes, yes.
Karen: Very competitive relationship, even to this, still now, where we're filming, it's pretty competitive. You would think it would be her and Shalimar, right?
Tony: Yeah.
Karen: Because, you know, girls and the cattiness. But it's not. Their relationship is, they're pretty distant with each other. They don't interact very much, they keep their distances. But her and Brennan definitely like to go head to head because she's just like that. She just wants to go, "Come on, you think you're all big and tough? I'll show you."
Tony: And do you think maybe Shalimar, there's a little bit of, kind of like a mutual respect between the two of them?
Karen: You know, I think so. Like there's really...because there's no cattiness and there's no competition between the two, I think they're both really strong, tough girls. And I think that's where the respect comes in. They're just like, "Hey, I know where you're at, I know where you're at. Let's just leave it alone for now."
Tony: And it looks like so far, Jesse is kind of, still trying to figure this one out, a little bit, and see where she's about, you know?
Karen: Yeah, absolutely.
Tony: So they're not quite sure, like as we said, they might be going along an interesting path, but we'll see when they get there, you know? That kind of thing.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: But that's great. I mean, you know, you obviously had to, you came from a show, on Adventure Inc., where you had to do your share of physical stuff.
Karen: Right.
Tony: But isn't it kind of turned up a notch, you know, on Mutant X than it was on Adventure Inc.?
Karen: Well, actually, no.
Tony: No?
Karen: I don't do -- I mean, on Adventure Inc, I had a fight every episode. At least two or three. And it was really physical on top of all the other action, the machine guns and all this stuff.
Tony: Yeah.
Karen: It was a really, really action packed show, which was a lot of fun. And then this time, on this show, I still -- I mean, I do have my powers, which I get to use, but I mean, there's nothing super physical. And I don't have many fights. Shalimar still kinda takes care of that department. So, no, I don't have as much physical stuff to do on this show.
Tony: Oh, that's good.
Karen: Which sometimes on my lazy days, I'm like, "Cool, perfect!" And then other days, I'm just like, "Come on! Let me kick some badass butt!" You know, it depends. It's a totally different thing. There's a lot more dialogue and a lot more explaining to do on this show than there was on Adventure Inc.
Tony: There was a scene that I really liked which I caught at the end of one of the episodes, where I think you were with this scientist who had developed this, I think it was DXL or something like that?
Karen: Right.
Tony: You know, you just kind of told him to what he was.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: And it was a good little moment. And those are some of the moments that at times were missing last year.
Karen: Right.
Tony: So I said, "Well, you know, I'm glad that somebody is benefiting from that." And I think that we're getting to see that you can handle that stuff as much as we saw you do the physical stuff in Adventure Inc.
Karen: Right. Yeah.
Tony: So it's good to see that.
Karen: Oh, cool, thanks.
Tony: Yeah, absolutely. I don't notice like anything where when you come into the team, of anybody's abilities, you know, kind of going down, or someone who's not up to par with everybody else acting-wise. I think it's a very good dynamic group and the weird part about it is when you're watching it, and you'd almost swear you're watching the show, maybe a year from now. As opposed to just watching somebody who just came into the team now.
Karen: Yeah, well, cool! I like hearing that. Because it just shows that there is good chemistry and we've all, you know, you can tell.
Tony: Yeah.
Karen: You just kind of feel that vibe.
Tony: Yeah.
Karen: But that's because we all get along so great off set, something that makes it really, really important too. It makes a big difference when you all get along.
Tony: That was part of the problem. They had so many people that they had to do episodes about so and so, and that so to develop each character. And it becomes like spinning plates that you have to keep spinning before one of them breaks, or whatever.
Karen: Right.
Tony: And this way, by having four people, you know, you don't have to keep as many things going.
Karen: Right.
Tony: And you can develop their characters and give them each a little bit more, as opposed to dividing it up like four or five times.
Karen: That's exactly why this year is different because it is. They can really now take the time to spend one whole episode on one character. And we all get our chance now to have our past, or our personalities explored. And I think the audience really wants that. Because the audience has been following the show for the past two years, really wants to get to know them personally now. Right?
Tony: Oh, absolutely.
Karen: So, I mean, my character aside, my character's new, who cares, but you want to know what Brennan really went through, really, like the depth of him. Or Shalimar, or Jesse.
Tony: Absolutely.
Karen: Yeah. Right.
Tony: That's gonna keep the longevity going on the show.
Karen: And that's what happens this whole season, it's cool.
Tony: Oh, that's great. That's great to hear that.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: And actually, their first season is now available on DVD, so before you know it, your episodes will be along too.
Karen (laughing): Forever! Forever etched! Oh, no!
Tony: And you'll have to walk into a room and watch yourself and comment on what you're doing on the screen on that episode. That's the weird part.
Karen: Oh, God, I opened my big mouth. Oh, no. They'd better have some editing beeps on it. Yeah. Me and my truck driver mouth. I have been very good this conversation.
Tony: Yes, you have. Although I have my button that I can use, too, so, like my beep.
Karen: That's good.
Tony: Whenever I'm sent interviews with Colin Farrel, I do my job editing, believe me. He's very expressive in that way.
Karen: Yes, yes.
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Tony: I don't know if we'll get a chance to see Lexa's lighter side on the show. I don't know if they'll do that.
Karen: I think once she loosens up, maybe. She does kind of have her little sense of humor. But I think to show too much of her sense of humor would be being too vulnerable, and being too friendly and giving them too much. So she's holding back that way too, so yeah.
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Tony: And you're from Quebec, right, is that right?
Karen: Oh, yes sir, I'm French. I'm 100% pure French. You can't tell by my accent, but I am.
Tony: Oh no, good for you.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: Oh, that's beautiful up there, no question.
Karen: Oh, yeah, definitely. I mean, I'm actually from Sept-Îles, which is really, really, really far north.
Tony: Oh, wow.
Karen: Just where the -- kind of where the opening of the Bay enters the St. Lawrence river.
Tony: Oh, yeah, sure.
Karen: It just kind of empties out into the ocean? That's where I was born, but because my father was in the army, we moved around all the time. So that's where I learned English, and actually went to school only in English.
Tony: So, how's your French these days?
Karen: Oh, it's great. I'm fully bilingual.
Tony: Oh, that's excellent.
Karen: But I'm better in English, you know, with my spelling and my this and my that, because that's where I got my education.
Tony: Yeah. So, that's the way I am with Spanish too.
Karen: Cool. But I mean, it's so perfect, isn't it?
Tony: Oh, yeah.
Karen: Is your daughter Spanish?
Tony: Well, actually, yeah, she actually graduated with honors in Spanish in high school.
Karen: Yay! Good.
Tony: So I'm very proud of her for that. And she's keeping up with it, which is nice.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: Italian too, she learned, I think. Yeah, so she's pretty cool that way. But it's nice to have that. I mean, I can go see movies and things like that and understand them, so that's not a problem. I can read it.
Karen: It's perfect. It's an advantage.
Tony: And obviously, when you see shows where somebody speaks in Spanish, I know what they're saying.
Karen: Yeah. You don't have to read the subtitles.
Tony: No, never, never. And actually, I can tell when they missed a word or something.
Karen: Right.
Tony: I can go, "That's not right. That's not exactly what he's saying. That's okay. Yeah, you're getting the gist of it, don't worry about it." That's what people ask.
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Tony: Wow. You know, Forbes had a daytime background, too.
Karen: Well, so did Victor.
Tony: And Brennan, and Brennan too...or Victor, rather.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: Yeah, exactly. So they've talked to me about that type of past and what they've done, and things like that.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: I think it's good, I think it's good training for actors.
Karen: Oh, it is. I mean, I've never done a soap, but Forbes tells me, he's like, "Oh, yeah, we'd read 18 pages of dialogue a day in four hours."
Tony: Yeah.
Karen: So I guess your memory gets to be really, really, really well trained after that.
Tony: Yeah. Do you get as much technobabble? That's what we call it when you get those tech terms?
Karen: Right.
Tony: Do you get as much as he does?
Karen: Well, not as much as Forbes.
Tony: Oh, that's good.
Karen: No. Because Lexa goes out and about into the action more.
Tony: Yeah.
Karen: But actually, I would say between the four of them, it's her and, it's Lexa and Forbes who has most of the technobabble and the explaining to do. Especially in the first episode, I had a lot of explaining to do. I had to account for what had really happened and what was really going on behind Genomex and the GSA and all that stuff. So, yeah, between the two of us, we have our fair share of [blows a raspberry] tongue twisting technobabble, as you say.
Tony (laughing): Yeah, absolutely. And that was the phrase that was coined for Star Trek.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: Because that's what it says in the script. They would just say, "So and So" and then they would say, "Tech."
Karen: Right.
Tony: You know, and then they would give it to somebody else, who would write in the technical words.
Karen: Wow.
Tony: Because the writer wouldn't know what to put. They actually had somebody who would handle that.
Karen: Yeah, right, right, right.
Tony: And, ironically, the person who did that on Star Trek :the Next Generation, became a producer there, and now is producing a show called CSI.
Karen: Oh, you're kidding, I didn't know that!
Tony: Yeah, Naren Shankar, he's one of the--
Karen: That's a great show!
Tony: Isn't it?
Karen: Oh, I love it.
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Tony: Oh, yeah.
Karen: It's crazy, I don't get to see anything. But my all time favorite show in the whole world? Don't laugh, it's Golden Girls. I swear to God, I love that show!
Tony: My daughter grew up loving that show.
Karen: Oh, love it. It's my favorite.
Tony: That was a funny show, though. I have to admit it was a funny show.
Karen: I know, really, it's like, "Oh, it's three old ladies." But it's not. It's actually funny, it's like actually really funny.
Tony: Like when you look at the concept on paper, it's like, three old ladies are not gonna be funny.
Karen: But the writing is brilliant sometimes! Right?
Tony: It was. It really was very funny. So I really, I have to agree. It was really, it was kind of a classic little show.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: Speaking of your show...
Karen: Yes.
Tony: What can you tell us is coming up? You know, we have sweeps just around the corner.
Karen: Oooo, we've got a good episode on sweeps that we're doing. We can do that on sweeps. It's really, really interesting. I can give you a little hint about what's coming up.
Tony: Just...yeah.
Karen: Just a little teaser.
Tony: Exactly.
Karen: Picture hot women locked up in a women's prison.
Tony (laughing): I'm all for that.
Karen: We're gonna leave it at that.
Tony: All right.
Karen: Stay tuned for that one next week.
Tony: Can you say Lexa and Shalimar in that prison?
Karen: Yes, sir.
Tony: Oh, yes! All right! That's great.
Karen: Yeah. That's it.
Tony: I'll say, the show is definitely not hard on the eyes, especially when you both are on the screen, that's for sure.
Karen (laughing): Come on, now!
Tony: There's one thing I am also going to miss on Adventure Inc., is we won't get a chance to see you in a bathing suit anymore., that often anymore
Karen: Well, with the reruns you might.
Tony: Well, with the reruns. So maybe if I could kind of throw in a pitch to the producers of Mutant X. The jet goes down on an island, and the gals have to wear bikinis for like, a whole, for a two part episode! Ah, make it a three part episode. So that would be the only thing I would like to see.
Karen: That's great. I'd better get off the phone with you in case it works.
Tony: Oh, man, they might end up doing that, you never know. That's great. I think it's good, they're gonna be fine. It's interesting to have watched the evolution of this show, where it's been and where it is right now. I think they're a lot better off. Now, I guess, Tom McCamus, as I understand, is still kind of around. Is he gonna pop back once in a while and kind of torment you guys again?
Karen: I think he might be just about done.
Tony: Okay, okay.
Karen: Yeah. I think Eckhart may have....
Tony: Bit the dust one last time.
Karen: Bit the dust, we hope, one last time.
Tony: One last time.
Karen: Had enough of him.
Tony: And have you had the chance to work with John Shea yet?
Karen: No.
Tony: Oh. Because I know Adam will pop back once in a while too.
Karen: Maybe, you never know.
Tony: Yeah, yeah.
Karen: You never know. But there's a lot of interesting, interesting twists that are coming up on this season that you guys will just love.
Tony: Oh, cool.
Karen: Yeah. It's just all of these little surprises here and there.
Tony: Good. I would be remiss if I didn't say that the powers, man, I mean, you're bending light, and you're able to turn invisible once in a while.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: That's pretty cool!
Karen: How cool would that be, to have that power in real life?
Tony: Wow, yeah.
Karen: Come on, man! I go to bed every night and I think, "Oh, come on, Lexa! Let's do it, Lexa!" I just wish I had that power in real life. It's so awesome.
Tony: Yeah, because not only invisibility, but she can like blind somebody, and stuff like that too.
Karen: Yeah, and she has lasers.
Tony: Yeah, I mean, it's all with lights. I mean, just light, just going with that concept, it's very broad. You can do anything.
Karen: Right.
Tony: I mean, she could make her own solar flares if she wants too.
Karen: Yeah, except she's a little screwed when it's dark, though.
Tony: Yeah, yeah.
Karen: That's something she doesn't manage, but apart from that...
Tony: That's true, that's true.
Karen: Yeah.
Tony: Well, you know, I really want to thank you for taking the time out to speak to me.
Karen: You're welcome, I had fun. It was great.
Tony: Yeah, and I had fun too. I think, I'm happy for you because, you know, when I heard about Adventure Inc., I was saying, "Oh, that's a shame." You know, I was really sorry to hear that. But I think their loss is Mutant X's gain.
Karen: Oh, thanks.
Tony: So I think you're gonna be fine on the show. You've been great so far, and looking forward to seeing and finding out more about Lexa.
Karen: Well, you will.
Tony: Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure.
Karen: You have a great day.
Tony: Thank you, you too.
Karen: Okay.
Tony: Take care.
Karen: Bye.
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