Joy Division. Explain.
Hey guys.
As a lot of you are probably aware, I've been thinking about Joy Division a lot lately.
This all stems back, I suppose, from that first viewing of 24 Hour Party People, and that intense feeling that I was missing something. I mean, I've only got a few songs of theirs, but the fact of the matter is that Ian Curtis's vocals appear to irritate me like crazy. I can hear strains of genius, if not at least very good, echoing out through the music - but Ian seems to be ruining it for me.
So I've been soul searching. I've found one song that almost appeals to me - Transmission. It's really good, got a good beat and feel to it, good music - but about half the song is out because of the vocals. The bit where he gets to the 'dance dance dance' bit is good. It gets my blood pumping, it's exciting - much like a lot of what I get from New Order (read: Shell Shock - my god, what a freaking song).
This brings me to the second stem point - I love most of what I hear out of New Order. For me, it seems like an amazing step up from Joy Division. I also understand that there is a sad aside to this, that the fact that this came from Ian's ashes. And I think it's this, most importantly, that makes me want to understand Joy Division. Or rather, what people see in it.
Can anyone help me with this? If you can give song refernces that would be all the better. I'm going to try and listen to an entire album at some stage soon to try and get it some more, but I'd really like to hear what people have to say on the topic.
Allan. (has no idea why his brain won't rest on this topic)
As a lot of you are probably aware, I've been thinking about Joy Division a lot lately.
This all stems back, I suppose, from that first viewing of 24 Hour Party People, and that intense feeling that I was missing something. I mean, I've only got a few songs of theirs, but the fact of the matter is that Ian Curtis's vocals appear to irritate me like crazy. I can hear strains of genius, if not at least very good, echoing out through the music - but Ian seems to be ruining it for me.
So I've been soul searching. I've found one song that almost appeals to me - Transmission. It's really good, got a good beat and feel to it, good music - but about half the song is out because of the vocals. The bit where he gets to the 'dance dance dance' bit is good. It gets my blood pumping, it's exciting - much like a lot of what I get from New Order (read: Shell Shock - my god, what a freaking song).
This brings me to the second stem point - I love most of what I hear out of New Order. For me, it seems like an amazing step up from Joy Division. I also understand that there is a sad aside to this, that the fact that this came from Ian's ashes. And I think it's this, most importantly, that makes me want to understand Joy Division. Or rather, what people see in it.
Can anyone help me with this? If you can give song refernces that would be all the better. I'm going to try and listen to an entire album at some stage soon to try and get it some more, but I'd really like to hear what people have to say on the topic.
Allan. (has no idea why his brain won't rest on this topic)