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vyrantium June 30 2010, 10:51:06 UTC
Huh... that's a really good point. I guess I never thought about it that much to really come to a conclusion xD This show tends to make my head spin with all the crap they toss at us. It seems like for every answer there are at least five more questions that pop up as a result of it... I don't think it'll ever end in a way where we're satisfied we knew what went on xD

I think part of me always looked at the Cain and Abel thing and recognized that they were brothers... and since John was an acceptable vessel and we never heard anything about Mary's side being used, I always assumed John just had a brother somewhere (possibly Nick) who was the imperfect Lucifer vessel. I just figured Mary brought something special into the mix (the hunter bloodline or something?) but it wasn't that she could be a vessel. I figured both of them being sons of John Winchester gave them the opportunity to be the vessels of either Michael or Lucifer, and the demon blood Sam was fed was the only thing that made him perfect for the dark side rather than light.

Does that make sense? I guess that's where my mind took things. I figured John was a descendant of one brother and the potential brother in Nick would have been descendant of the other.

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mummyluvr314 June 30 2010, 19:07:07 UTC
Yeah, I agree with the demon blood thing.

I've started wondering lately about the other psychic kids. Were they a distraction? A back-up plan? Insurance? Although the vessel-bloodline thing explains the "other generations" that Azazel mentioned...

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vyrantium July 1 2010, 06:19:12 UTC
Yeah, good call... they just sort of seemed to abandon that story line, didn't they? And with no explanation. They do that pretty often though. Seems like their MO is retconning the hell out of things on a weekly basis :P

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mummyluvr314 July 1 2010, 17:37:58 UTC
I think Kripke's official explanation was "I got tired of the Psychic Kids storyline, so they all died."

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vyrantium July 2 2010, 03:48:03 UTC
Ah yes, the unofficial official explanation of every dropped story arc and/or character development in SPN history.

"I got tired of Dean having legitimate feelings for Cassie, so I made it like she didn't even exist and replaced her with a white girl you're all supposed to believe is Dean's one true love after a one night stand."

"I got tired of having females around that actually had backbones, so I killed off Pamela and Bela."

"I got tired of giving awesome characters back stories, so midway through Gabriel's character development I decided to kill him."

That last one really bugs me actually. If we actually do get him back next season, I hope we finally figure out who in the hell his vessel is... I mean come on, we know about all the other archangel's vessels! Even Raph, who was only in one scene. You're telling me we can't know what's up with Gabriel? :P

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mummyluvr314 July 2 2010, 06:21:02 UTC
I didn't actually buy the Cassie thing, either. Girls that pop in for one episode never work for me, especially when they're "the only person I've ever loved." Ugh.

I'm pretty sure we'll be getting Gabe back, though. At least I hope so. I want some back story, too (on him and Nick).

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vyrantium July 2 2010, 16:16:02 UTC
Well, I never really liked Cassie at all either... but at least there was SUPPOSED to be an extended relationship there that we didn't see :P I threw a hissy fit and thought it was stupid when it happened, but eventually I just accepted it and moved on from it... but the fact that they just completely retconned it seasons later just made no sense to me, much less for someone he hardly knows. I'd buy Cassie before bendy chick.

Nick is just SCREAMING for back story, I swear. I mean come on... not even a last name? Even random people get last names, and he was really important! I can only hope they were planning something for him all along and didn't give him a last name because it would given something in his atory arc away. You know, because I'm delusional and don't accept that they didn't care about yet ANOTHER character with huge potential.

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mummyluvr314 July 2 2010, 18:52:22 UTC
I mentally explained it as the difference between the two women in the end - Cassie didn't accept Dean's lifestyle until she needed his help and called him back to get him to save her family; Lisa involved no commitment and gave him a memorable weekend - if anyone's going to have random sex with him, it's going to be the person who had random sex with him a long time ago, and not the person that wanted him to stay. Lisa, however, was faced with the paranormal and didn't kick him out immediately. She still accepted him, while Cassie was all like "yeah, no. This won't work."

That was a really long explanation for something that makes no sense at all.

I think I'd even heard at one point that they were going to do a "back story episode for Mark's character" toward the end of the season, but never did. I'm still hopeful that he'll come back with everyone else.

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