Oh, no problem... it's funny really. I used to be super sensitive about it, and believe me... if I watch Hammer of the Gods all the way through I'll still cry at that scene because of how well it was acted. But you can't even WATCH a Gabriel fan video without seeing him die at least once. The guy "died" in every episode he was in xD The end scene for him WAS heart breaking though. I think what really got me (other than screaming NOOOO DON'T TAKE RICHARD AWAY FROM US TOOO!!!) was Lucifer's expression in that scene... that's one of my favorite things about Mark actually, his ability to completely carry a scene with just his eyes and facial expressions... no lines necessary. I couldn't be mad at Lucifer after that, he looked so wrecked. I actually half cry for Gabe and half cry for Luci there. Mark's expression absolutely wrecks me.
I feel sorry for any poor Losties who stumble across this vid. I might have accidentally defiled their music.
LOL! Yeah, I'm just a very casual Lost fan... basically there because of Mark, although I like Titus too and my friend is making me sort of fond of Ian Somerhalder. The really intense Lost fans might flip. Then again maybe not, because you threw Jacob in there. They're likely to just believe it's zombie!Jacob like they always do and move on :P
Ya know? It makes me smile to see the petition, but have you SEEN the petition to bring back Gabriel? Probably close to 3000 signatures by now... high 2000's last time I checked. And look at how many have signed Mark's. *pouts* I'm already sad that we've either lost Lucifer or he's going to be played by Sam some more... if we don't get Nick back, I'm going to be VERY upset. Nick and Gabe are just hugging the ground *is delusional with you*
OMG, I need to see that show now! Like I said, I've been terribly behind on seeing his TV work for the most part. It's hysterical, the way SPN cast members seem to kind of follow each other around... it's ridiculous how many people have been on the same shows. I had no idea Mark was in anything with the actress who played Meg or the other Mark. Both Marks in an episode of something? I might explode from joy :D
Mark's face in that scene helped me coin the phrase "redemption arc in three episodes or less." I repeated it endlessly until Sam said yes. Then I cried. I think that's the main reason I'[m writing my book. I wanted Lucifer to get a redemption arc in Supernatural,and he didn't. So I'm going to give him one.
Zombie!Jacob? But he's already a ghost. That's what made me mad. People complaining that Supernatural's not giving him enough screentime when he was in Hawaii for part of the season filming scenes for a show that had already killed him off! *ignores Abandon All Hope and the Lucifer/Dean "meet cute" scene*
I didn't know there was a petition for Gabriel, but I assume it would be much more popular. You know, because he wasn't actually evil... and stuff. It's two o'clock in the morning and I read that last sentence as "Nick and Gabe are just hugging." Now I want awkward afterlife fic. And now I think I ship it?
They're actually pretty awesome episodes of the show (which was/is(?) pretty awesome itself). The one with Rachel Miner in it made me cry, though. Just a warning.
Awww... that's a great reason to write a book. Mark's portrayal of Lucifer actually inspired me to start on the project I'm working on too, even though I loved the character prior to that. It's just that I'd never really connected to the character in popular media on that level really... because while there were portrayals like Viggo Mortensen's Lucifer in The Prophecy and such, they were never quite on the same wavelength as Mark's. His was so close to what I felt about him in the first place that it was both spooky and satisfying. At that point the plot bunny just came to me when I was white-knuckling it down the highway in the pouring rain, hardly able to see my windshield. Thankfully I remembered it perfectly and started to get the groundwork done.
Well... I'm all FOR complaining that Supernatural wasn't giving him enough screen time, but then again I'm just a greedy little Marksha whore who just wants more even when it's impossible :P I DO think Lucifer should have been much more prominent in the series, but working alongside the Lost schedule it would have had to stretch into season 6 of SPN... which I think should have happened ANYWAY since it was incredibly rushed and we spent all this time thinking about a character who we hardly saw and hardly posed a threat. But then again maybe it's just me wanting more Marksha again.
LOL! Nick and Gabe hugging? Awwww... now I kind of want to ship it too, even if I'm a hardcore Lucifer/Gabriel fan and Nick/Gabriel kind of makes little to no sense :P It COULD work though... especially if Gabe comes back and Nick's a hunter who cries himself to sleep at night. I mean come on. Who has a better sense of humor than the Gabester? No one! He could visit Nick at night (oh man, I just cracked up at that TV channel reference I accidentally made) and cheer him up and tell him it's not his fault since Gabriel totally loves humans... epic bromance ensues. I don't even like that word but it could fit here xD
The one with Rachel Miner in it made me cry, though. Just a warning.
Oh god... then I'd better assume I'll need the tissues then xD I BAWLED watching The Commish, and I'm not even sure I was supposed to, LOL. I'm awful like that, which is why I kind of did this: \o/ When Mark mentioned being an emotional movie-goer and crying during Scooby Doo. I'm totally not like that usually... my friends went years without seeing me cry in response to anything in real life. But the moment I watch something or listen to music? There goes the waterworks :P Especially if I'm by myself. Lilo and Stitch? BAWLED. Not even sure if I was supposed to, but Disney seriously wants to rip your heart out... I'm convinced (Lion King? Bambi? COME ON!) Ghost? Cried for over an hour straight xD Phantom of the Opera makes me cry for the phantom. I think I even cried watching Guys and Dolls once, even though it's not sad xD I'm awful at that.
I think it would be hard for anyone to beat Mark's portrayal. He should be everyone's go-to Satan from now on. Definitely. He's just so... inspirational!
I definitely wanted to see more of Luci this past season. I mean, they built him up as such a big threat, and then he didn't really do anything. I would love to see some beyond-the-grave influence. Like, Nickifer stalking Sam in his dreams or something. I would have been all for a condensed Apocalypse, though. I actually think that they drug it out too long. It seemed like there were a lot of stand-alones in season five (of course, if actually count, the number is only 4 out of 20 episodes with no ties to Lucifer/Horsemen/Vessels/the Apocalypse). I would have liked to see more of an active threat. Maybe Luci showing up at Bobby's place to find the boys.
I love your Nick at Night reference. I had to double-take to catch it, but it made me LOL out loud. I can see God bringing Gabe back and Gabe bringing Nick back to give him a shot at redemption or something. I think the term bromance totally applies to anything related to Supernatural, as Kripke has been known to use the term as a description of Sam and Dean's relationship.
I cried during Lilo and Stitch. And Lion King. Basically anything by Disney, yeah. Don't feel bad, though. I cried at a Youtube video the other day (Dean Winchester Post Secrets; when the text "I've never told my brother how much he means to me" came up, I bawled) .And What Is And What Should Never Be gets me every time ("it's so sad because he's so happy!"). it's kind of ridiculous.
Yes! I totally agree with what I've seen some people suggest... we should start some sort of petition to get a screenplay written for Paradise Lost and have Mark cast as Lucifer. I don't know whose ass we'd have to light a fire under to get it done, but I'd love to see it and I'm sure Mark wouldn't mind playing Luci again. I think he's the only person I've seen play the devil where I can not only sympathize with him, but I would be willing to absolutely sympathize with him as I followed him down to the pit xD Terrible, but true... he's that compelling.
I think the build up to the apocalypse was drawn out, but the big-bang never happened which just made it all... lame. It seemed like they dragged out the beginning, but when it was actually upon us they just zipped to the end and Lucifer hardly had anything but a backseat role. It wasn't really the length of the draw-out, but the lack of Lucifer in the foreground after all this "LUCIFER CANNOT RISE OMG!!!" flailing people were doing. That and like I said, nothing happened. I would have far preferred the (basically) zombie apocalypse ending we saw in The End, minus Sam!Luci... because no, that's just not right :P
Ha! And that was totally an accidental reference too, and yet I laughed for a good two minutes xD Strange how things like that come out, lol. If God never brings Gabe back there's some serious messed up crap going on if Cas gets a "get out of angel-afterlife free" card twice. I love Cas, but come on now... share the wealth! I'd totally be happy to see Gabe and Nick together in ANY capacity though... I love Richard and Mark, they're probably my favorites from the show (which is ridiculous considering how few episodes they were in). I just desperately want hurting!Nick, and to see him comforted by someone. Whether it's Dean or Gabe, I don't really mind.
I cried at a Youtube video the other day (Dean Winchester Post Secrets; when the text "I've never told my brother how much he means to me" came up, I bawled)
Oh god... I would have lost it too. I seriously lost it in the finale when Dean looked up at Sam!Luci when he was beating him to death and he said that he was there and he wasn't leaving him. God, I broke so hard at that point. That was the only good thing about the episode to me other than Mark's scenes and Chuck's narration :P And What is and What Should Never Be killed me as an episode too... I cried through it, pathetically.
I also cried watching The Number 23 too... but only for Mark's character. That whole scene in the jail killed me, when he gives the speech about his sister having a breakdown and everyone being angry with him and not coming around anymore. I just knew he didn't do it. And later when we found out he was innocent and he got released? I cried again. I was happy he got to be free, but how awful? He had to lose the person he loved, only to find out HE'S being accused of it... rot in jail all those years, have his family turn away from him and hate his guts... and here he is, an innocent man enduring it all. Things like that really shake me up for some reason. If you've ever seen The Life of David Gale, you'd probably know what I mean. That movie drives me nuts.
Yes. A thousand times yes. I would love a Paradise Lost movie, especially one starring Mark. Yes. We need to get someone to make this movie. Now.
I want to love season five. I really do. There were some good moments. Really. But it was just too anti-climactic for me. And I kinda blame Lost for that. Lost and the CW. I'm hoping that by taking things small again, season six will be better. I'm crossing my fingers.
I'm still hoping for a spin-off about the angel vessels in purgatory (or whatever), and everyone's getting over the things that the angels did in their bodies, but Nick is quiet all the time and people are kinda scared of him. And then they find out why he's all quiet all the time and then everyone's all nice and he freaks out and... yay.
Every bit of Chuck's narration got to me. I wasn't upset about Dean until he was kneeling alone in the graveyard and I realized that he really was alone. Mary and John and Cas and Bobby were dead and Sam was in Hell and he had nothing. That realization hurt.
I have never even heard of The Life of David Gale. Should I watch it?
I think we need to get on this fire lighting business... we need a Paradise Lost movie for Mark, a spin-off with Jacob and MIB, and a spin-off for the angels/vessels/anything that will bring Mark back to a SPN-ish show :P
I'm kind of not a fan of taking things smaller, though from the early reports that's what it was going to be... but the most recent ones make it seem like the apocalypse actually DID something and heaven and hell and everything in between is in total disarray. I think it's hard to announce something huge like the existence of angels and an apocalypse only to over simplify and go back to the beginning... I'd feel cheated if that's what happened. It's like insulting the intelligence of your audience if you ask me, dumbing it down almost. I think the writers just dropped the ball somewhere along the way and realized they'd gotten themselves in over their heads, thereby knocking it down a few pegs... I'd like to see things escalate or peak and stay the same-ish, not deflate the way things did after Sam fell in the hole :P
I have never even heard of The Life of David Gale. Should I watch it?
Well, let's put it this way... I liked it, but a lot of people think it's just a load of anti-capital punishment propaganda. I'm against it anyway for the very reason the movie was created, so it didn't bother me and I didn't find it preachy other than the fact that the main character (played by Kevin Spacey who I think is great) is an advocate for abolishing it. It's kind of upsetting, especially if you're sensitive about things like that... but it was a REALLY good movie and I think it's worth watching. Kevin Spacey's character almost reminds me of Mark's in The Number 23, if only because he was a professor that kind of got screwed over too.
Well, I'm betting Heaven and Hell are in disarray because both of their leaders are trapped in a hellhole. I think when they say smaller, they mean it's going to be Sam and Dean, with no talk of Seals or impending doom, trying to come to terms with the choices they've made. Bonus points if we get a new slew of hunters from the Apocalypse That Wasn't.
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I feel sorry for any poor Losties who stumble across this vid. I might have accidentally defiled their music.
LOL! Yeah, I'm just a very casual Lost fan... basically there because of Mark, although I like Titus too and my friend is making me sort of fond of Ian Somerhalder. The really intense Lost fans might flip. Then again maybe not, because you threw Jacob in there. They're likely to just believe it's zombie!Jacob like they always do and move on :P
Ya know? It makes me smile to see the petition, but have you SEEN the petition to bring back Gabriel? Probably close to 3000 signatures by now... high 2000's last time I checked. And look at how many have signed Mark's. *pouts* I'm already sad that we've either lost Lucifer or he's going to be played by Sam some more... if we don't get Nick back, I'm going to be VERY upset. Nick and Gabe are just hugging the ground *is delusional with you*
OMG, I need to see that show now! Like I said, I've been terribly behind on seeing his TV work for the most part. It's hysterical, the way SPN cast members seem to kind of follow each other around... it's ridiculous how many people have been on the same shows. I had no idea Mark was in anything with the actress who played Meg or the other Mark. Both Marks in an episode of something? I might explode from joy :D
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Zombie!Jacob? But he's already a ghost. That's what made me mad. People complaining that Supernatural's not giving him enough screentime when he was in Hawaii for part of the season filming scenes for a show that had already killed him off! *ignores Abandon All Hope and the Lucifer/Dean "meet cute" scene*
I didn't know there was a petition for Gabriel, but I assume it would be much more popular. You know, because he wasn't actually evil... and stuff. It's two o'clock in the morning and I read that last sentence as "Nick and Gabe are just hugging." Now I want awkward afterlife fic. And now I think I ship it?
They're actually pretty awesome episodes of the show (which was/is(?) pretty awesome itself). The one with Rachel Miner in it made me cry, though. Just a warning.
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Well... I'm all FOR complaining that Supernatural wasn't giving him enough screen time, but then again I'm just a greedy little Marksha whore who just wants more even when it's impossible :P I DO think Lucifer should have been much more prominent in the series, but working alongside the Lost schedule it would have had to stretch into season 6 of SPN... which I think should have happened ANYWAY since it was incredibly rushed and we spent all this time thinking about a character who we hardly saw and hardly posed a threat. But then again maybe it's just me wanting more Marksha again.
LOL! Nick and Gabe hugging? Awwww... now I kind of want to ship it too, even if I'm a hardcore Lucifer/Gabriel fan and Nick/Gabriel kind of makes little to no sense :P It COULD work though... especially if Gabe comes back and Nick's a hunter who cries himself to sleep at night. I mean come on. Who has a better sense of humor than the Gabester? No one! He could visit Nick at night (oh man, I just cracked up at that TV channel reference I accidentally made) and cheer him up and tell him it's not his fault since Gabriel totally loves humans... epic bromance ensues. I don't even like that word but it could fit here xD
The one with Rachel Miner in it made me cry, though. Just a warning.
Oh god... then I'd better assume I'll need the tissues then xD I BAWLED watching The Commish, and I'm not even sure I was supposed to, LOL. I'm awful like that, which is why I kind of did this: \o/ When Mark mentioned being an emotional movie-goer and crying during Scooby Doo. I'm totally not like that usually... my friends went years without seeing me cry in response to anything in real life. But the moment I watch something or listen to music? There goes the waterworks :P Especially if I'm by myself. Lilo and Stitch? BAWLED. Not even sure if I was supposed to, but Disney seriously wants to rip your heart out... I'm convinced (Lion King? Bambi? COME ON!) Ghost? Cried for over an hour straight xD Phantom of the Opera makes me cry for the phantom. I think I even cried watching Guys and Dolls once, even though it's not sad xD I'm awful at that.
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I definitely wanted to see more of Luci this past season. I mean, they built him up as such a big threat, and then he didn't really do anything. I would love to see some beyond-the-grave influence. Like, Nickifer stalking Sam in his dreams or something. I would have been all for a condensed Apocalypse, though. I actually think that they drug it out too long. It seemed like there were a lot of stand-alones in season five (of course, if actually count, the number is only 4 out of 20 episodes with no ties to Lucifer/Horsemen/Vessels/the Apocalypse). I would have liked to see more of an active threat. Maybe Luci showing up at Bobby's place to find the boys.
I love your Nick at Night reference. I had to double-take to catch it, but it made me LOL out loud. I can see God bringing Gabe back and Gabe bringing Nick back to give him a shot at redemption or something. I think the term bromance totally applies to anything related to Supernatural, as Kripke has been known to use the term as a description of Sam and Dean's relationship.
I cried during Lilo and Stitch. And Lion King. Basically anything by Disney, yeah. Don't feel bad, though. I cried at a Youtube video the other day (Dean Winchester Post Secrets; when the text "I've never told my brother how much he means to me" came up, I bawled) .And What Is And What Should Never Be gets me every time ("it's so sad because he's so happy!"). it's kind of ridiculous.
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I think the build up to the apocalypse was drawn out, but the big-bang never happened which just made it all... lame. It seemed like they dragged out the beginning, but when it was actually upon us they just zipped to the end and Lucifer hardly had anything but a backseat role. It wasn't really the length of the draw-out, but the lack of Lucifer in the foreground after all this "LUCIFER CANNOT RISE OMG!!!" flailing people were doing. That and like I said, nothing happened. I would have far preferred the (basically) zombie apocalypse ending we saw in The End, minus Sam!Luci... because no, that's just not right :P
Ha! And that was totally an accidental reference too, and yet I laughed for a good two minutes xD Strange how things like that come out, lol. If God never brings Gabe back there's some serious messed up crap going on if Cas gets a "get out of angel-afterlife free" card twice. I love Cas, but come on now... share the wealth! I'd totally be happy to see Gabe and Nick together in ANY capacity though... I love Richard and Mark, they're probably my favorites from the show (which is ridiculous considering how few episodes they were in). I just desperately want hurting!Nick, and to see him comforted by someone. Whether it's Dean or Gabe, I don't really mind.
I cried at a Youtube video the other day (Dean Winchester Post Secrets; when the text "I've never told my brother how much he means to me" came up, I bawled)
Oh god... I would have lost it too. I seriously lost it in the finale when Dean looked up at Sam!Luci when he was beating him to death and he said that he was there and he wasn't leaving him. God, I broke so hard at that point. That was the only good thing about the episode to me other than Mark's scenes and Chuck's narration :P And What is and What Should Never Be killed me as an episode too... I cried through it, pathetically.
I also cried watching The Number 23 too... but only for Mark's character. That whole scene in the jail killed me, when he gives the speech about his sister having a breakdown and everyone being angry with him and not coming around anymore. I just knew he didn't do it. And later when we found out he was innocent and he got released? I cried again. I was happy he got to be free, but how awful? He had to lose the person he loved, only to find out HE'S being accused of it... rot in jail all those years, have his family turn away from him and hate his guts... and here he is, an innocent man enduring it all. Things like that really shake me up for some reason. If you've ever seen The Life of David Gale, you'd probably know what I mean. That movie drives me nuts.
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I want to love season five. I really do. There were some good moments. Really. But it was just too anti-climactic for me. And I kinda blame Lost for that. Lost and the CW. I'm hoping that by taking things small again, season six will be better. I'm crossing my fingers.
I'm still hoping for a spin-off about the angel vessels in purgatory (or whatever), and everyone's getting over the things that the angels did in their bodies, but Nick is quiet all the time and people are kinda scared of him. And then they find out why he's all quiet all the time and then everyone's all nice and he freaks out and... yay.
Every bit of Chuck's narration got to me. I wasn't upset about Dean until he was kneeling alone in the graveyard and I realized that he really was alone. Mary and John and Cas and Bobby were dead and Sam was in Hell and he had nothing. That realization hurt.
I have never even heard of The Life of David Gale. Should I watch it?
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I'm kind of not a fan of taking things smaller, though from the early reports that's what it was going to be... but the most recent ones make it seem like the apocalypse actually DID something and heaven and hell and everything in between is in total disarray. I think it's hard to announce something huge like the existence of angels and an apocalypse only to over simplify and go back to the beginning... I'd feel cheated if that's what happened. It's like insulting the intelligence of your audience if you ask me, dumbing it down almost. I think the writers just dropped the ball somewhere along the way and realized they'd gotten themselves in over their heads, thereby knocking it down a few pegs... I'd like to see things escalate or peak and stay the same-ish, not deflate the way things did after Sam fell in the hole :P
I have never even heard of The Life of David Gale. Should I watch it?
Well, let's put it this way... I liked it, but a lot of people think it's just a load of anti-capital punishment propaganda. I'm against it anyway for the very reason the movie was created, so it didn't bother me and I didn't find it preachy other than the fact that the main character (played by Kevin Spacey who I think is great) is an advocate for abolishing it. It's kind of upsetting, especially if you're sensitive about things like that... but it was a REALLY good movie and I think it's worth watching. Kevin Spacey's character almost reminds me of Mark's in The Number 23, if only because he was a professor that kind of got screwed over too.
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Well, I'm betting Heaven and Hell are in disarray because both of their leaders are trapped in a hellhole. I think when they say smaller, they mean it's going to be Sam and Dean, with no talk of Seals or impending doom, trying to come to terms with the choices they've made. Bonus points if we get a new slew of hunters from the Apocalypse That Wasn't.
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