1) Most people, when given a chance to live another 20 or 30 years, will, on average, be highly unlikely to achieve any great things to benefit humanity.
2) The Germans weren't bastards, and the so-called holocaust did not happen. However, even if they were, and even if it did, one of the results of WWII was positive for the jews, because it created the State of Israel, and there were lots of technological spinoffs, among other benefits, which were positive for just about everyone.
Communism was started by jews, and even though they lost control of it, that ended up killing way more people than The Third Reich.
If I could push a button which would wipe out Israel, with little-to-no negative impact on me, I would, without hesitation. Separately, jews should stop complaining about something which happened six decades ago, and which ultimately benefitted them greatly.
3) Waving a flag, within the country it represents, is not only a sign of a lack of courage, but it creates psychological pressure, to act within the group, on those who don't display it, and the resulting tensions can develop into long-term problems which are greater than those caused by the attacks themselves.
1) Everyone's life is precious to themselves; even if they didn't contribute to humanity, they had a right to live, and may have affected their little world. 2) Of course they weren't all bastards--a whole country of illegitemate children would be weird. And I'm confused--if the Holocaust didn't occur, did my grandpa just decide it'd be a good idea to tattoo himself? And did a whole bunch of people just decide to kill themselves and leave siucide notes blaming the Germans? Enlighten me. Yes, there was a lot of sarcasm in that. Admittedly, good came out of WWII, but only with bad. Why was Israel created? Because the Jews were being persecuted out of the countries they used to call home. Communism may have been started by the Jews, but you can't blame them for what Stalin did. That's idiotic. That's like blaming Martin Luther for personally killing everyone in the Thirty Years' War. The Jews have a right to complain--it's not like Israel has been left alone peacefully this whole time. There are constant attacks by people--apperantly like you--who don't want Israel to exist. Even the Jews deserve somewhere to live--why not? They've been kicked out of everywhere else (except Switzerland :P) 3) I didn't wave a flag of my country, and I refuse to pledge allegiance to a flag (for multiple reasons, not just including the fact that I don't want to pledge a nonsesical allegiance to peice of cloth), and I've never had much psychological pressure by other people within "the group".
1) Not everyone cares about their own life to the point of it being considered "precious", and there is no inalienable right to live. These are both fallacies resulting from persistent social constructs.
2a) Your lack of attention to detail is confusing the issues. There is a difference between the existence of camps, and their purpose. If your grandfather has a tattoo, then he was likely in a camp, but that doesn't mean that the camps were there to kill jews en masse. The Wannsee Conference supposedly established the doctrine for the “Final Solution", but, with information I have come across, this appears to have been proven false. There are many reasons as to why so many people died in the camps, but to find those reasons, you will need to do a lot of digging through lots of websites, to weed out the nonsense, but you don't seem to be inclined to do that, considering that you have a hard time getting through small, online documents. If that changes, then start with http://www.SolarGeneral.com.
2b) Don't say that something I said is idiotic when I said no such thing. I admitted, up front, that jews lost control of communism. You are assuming, for whatever unknown reason, that I meant that this loss of control occurred after Stalin.
2c) Even though Israel has not been left alone peacefully this whole time, the country acts as an immense seat of geographic power for jews, and that's something they did not have when living in other countries.
2d) "There are constant attacks by people--apperantly like you--who don't want Israel to exist."
Your emotional mixing of facts might get you somewhere with others here, but nowhere with me. You are making it sound as if I am like, or doing the same as, those people who detonated explosives. They acted, whereas I am merely making statements. When you equate talk and action as being the same, then you become no better than a censor. That's not always about preventing people from saying something. It's sometimes about making people out to be guilty of an action, simply because they talked about it. This happens frequently in the new laws regarding pedophiles.
3) For instance, I don't believe that it's okay to burn a flag. It's not just a piece of cloth. It represents something. The allegiance is to that particular "something", not to the cloth. Also, when you become an adult, the pressures exist and/or are more real, if for no other reason than because money is involved, but for now, that's a side issue here. If you were my age when 9/11 happened, and you lived here, and you didn't display or wear a flag, you would be seen as different. Additionally, if you were dark-skinned, you would be seen as suspicious.
4) I am neither a White Nazi, nor a jew, nor anything in particular. I am simply working my way towards being as sovereign an individual as I can achieve. If the jews, as a race, stand in my way, then, given the chance, I would wipe them out. If all jews were in my way, which would be unlikely, then it would, quite coincidentally, be genocide. I didn't grow up hating anyone, and even now, with everything I know about jews, I still find it incredibly difficult to hate, but I have discovered that it is usually bad to allow apathy and homogeneity to exist. You and I could be friends, if you wanted to be, as one individual to another.
1) I consider my life precious, because, hey it's literally my whole world. If I stop existing, then, dammit all, my world just stopped. A lot of people don't care about their lives, but many do; we don't have a "right" to live, admittedly, but to I necessarily have a "right" to control or take over someone's life? Either way, it doesn't matter, because I am physically capable of doing so, but I beleive it is wrong. Of course, that's an opinion; there really is no "wrong" or "right".
2a) Why beleive in the info you come across, then? If the info I got is wrong, yours could be too. And I have a short attention span--that's not going to change (though I've tried. I get yelled about it for it often too...)
2b) Elaborate, what do you mean Jews lost control of communism?
2c) What's wrong with an immense seat of geographic power for Jews? Isn't that the purpose? To give them a place to live. It's not a conspiracy to gather them all together to conquer the world with jew-power.
2d) I didn't mean you were detonating explosives; I meant you appear to have the same mindset about the existence of Israel. That's only what it appears like though, through your writing. And forgive my ineloquence, also, my writing doesn't make my point much better...
3) ...now that I think about it, I wouldn't give a second thought to burning a flag, so long as there is no symbolic meaning behind it that greatly insulted people. People depend to much on representations of things rather than the thing itself. I understand the flag represents our country, but I'm not pledging allegiance to the symbol of our country, I'm pledging to the country. Actually, that's a lie, I don't pledge at all... And yeah, people are racist and suspicious. My dad, as I've said, is Israeli; he's tall, dark, and middle-eastern, and we've been checked in airports because of him. People are a little frightened of him at times. But maybe that's just cause he kicks trees as a hobby.
4) If we are individuals, why do you have to categorize people? Jews by race, for instance. Supposing a person stands in your way. And by chance, he is Jewish. Does that mean the Jewish race is in your way? No, it means one guy is in your way, and coincidentally he's Jewish. Though I'm suspecting I'm misunderstanding you again (not surprising... I'm bad at eloquence and understanding.)
2) The Germans weren't bastards, and the so-called holocaust did not happen. However, even if they were, and even if it did, one of the results of WWII was positive for the jews, because it created the State of Israel, and there were lots of technological spinoffs, among other benefits, which were positive for just about everyone.
Communism was started by jews, and even though they lost control of it, that ended up killing way more people than The Third Reich.
If I could push a button which would wipe out Israel, with little-to-no negative impact on me, I would, without hesitation. Separately, jews should stop complaining about something which happened six decades ago, and which ultimately benefitted them greatly.
3) Waving a flag, within the country it represents, is not only a sign of a lack of courage, but it creates psychological pressure, to act within the group, on those who don't display it, and the resulting tensions can develop into long-term problems which are greater than those caused by the attacks themselves.
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2) Of course they weren't all bastards--a whole country of illegitemate children would be weird. And I'm confused--if the Holocaust didn't occur, did my grandpa just decide it'd be a good idea to tattoo himself? And did a whole bunch of people just decide to kill themselves and leave siucide notes blaming the Germans? Enlighten me. Yes, there was a lot of sarcasm in that. Admittedly, good came out of WWII, but only with bad. Why was Israel created? Because the Jews were being persecuted out of the countries they used to call home.
Communism may have been started by the Jews, but you can't blame them for what Stalin did. That's idiotic. That's like blaming Martin Luther for personally killing everyone in the Thirty Years' War.
The Jews have a right to complain--it's not like Israel has been left alone peacefully this whole time. There are constant attacks by people--apperantly like you--who don't want Israel to exist. Even the Jews deserve somewhere to live--why not? They've been kicked out of everywhere else (except Switzerland :P)
3) I didn't wave a flag of my country, and I refuse to pledge allegiance to a flag (for multiple reasons, not just including the fact that I don't want to pledge a nonsesical allegiance to peice of cloth), and I've never had much psychological pressure by other people within "the group".
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2a) Your lack of attention to detail is confusing the issues. There is a difference between the existence of camps, and their purpose. If your grandfather has a tattoo, then he was likely in a camp, but that doesn't mean that the camps were there to kill jews en masse. The Wannsee Conference supposedly established the doctrine for the “Final Solution", but, with information I have come across, this appears to have been proven false. There are many reasons as to why so many people died in the camps, but to find those reasons, you will need to do a lot of digging through lots of websites, to weed out the nonsense, but you don't seem to be inclined to do that, considering that you have a hard time getting through small, online documents. If that changes, then start with http://www.SolarGeneral.com.
2b) Don't say that something I said is idiotic when I said no such thing. I admitted, up front, that jews lost control of communism. You are assuming, for whatever unknown reason, that I meant that this loss of control occurred after Stalin.
2c) Even though Israel has not been left alone peacefully this whole time, the country acts as an immense seat of geographic power for jews, and that's something they did not have when living in other countries.
2d) "There are constant attacks by people--apperantly like you--who don't want Israel to exist."
Your emotional mixing of facts might get you somewhere with others here, but nowhere with me. You are making it sound as if I am like, or doing the same as, those people who detonated explosives. They acted, whereas I am merely making statements. When you equate talk and action as being the same, then you become no better than a censor. That's not always about preventing people from saying something. It's sometimes about making people out to be guilty of an action, simply because they talked about it. This happens frequently in the new laws regarding pedophiles.
3) For instance, I don't believe that it's okay to burn a flag. It's not just a piece of cloth. It represents something. The allegiance is to that particular "something", not to the cloth. Also, when you become an adult, the pressures exist and/or are more real, if for no other reason than because money is involved, but for now, that's a side issue here. If you were my age when 9/11 happened, and you lived here, and you didn't display or wear a flag, you would be seen as different. Additionally, if you were dark-skinned, you would be seen as suspicious.
4) I am neither a White Nazi, nor a jew, nor anything in particular. I am simply working my way towards being as sovereign an individual as I can achieve. If the jews, as a race, stand in my way, then, given the chance, I would wipe them out. If all jews were in my way, which would be unlikely, then it would, quite coincidentally, be genocide. I didn't grow up hating anyone, and even now, with everything I know about jews, I still find it incredibly difficult to hate, but I have discovered that it is usually bad to allow apathy and homogeneity to exist. You and I could be friends, if you wanted to be, as one individual to another.
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2a) Why beleive in the info you come across, then? If the info I got is wrong, yours could be too. And I have a short attention span--that's not going to change (though I've tried. I get yelled about it for it often too...)
2b) Elaborate, what do you mean Jews lost control of communism?
2c) What's wrong with an immense seat of geographic power for Jews? Isn't that the purpose? To give them a place to live. It's not a conspiracy to gather them all together to conquer the world with jew-power.
2d) I didn't mean you were detonating explosives; I meant you appear to have the same mindset about the existence of Israel. That's only what it appears like though, through your writing. And forgive my ineloquence, also, my writing doesn't make my point much better...
3) ...now that I think about it, I wouldn't give a second thought to burning a flag, so long as there is no symbolic meaning behind it that greatly insulted people. People depend to much on representations of things rather than the thing itself. I understand the flag represents our country, but I'm not pledging allegiance to the symbol of our country, I'm pledging to the country. Actually, that's a lie, I don't pledge at all... And yeah, people are racist and suspicious. My dad, as I've said, is Israeli; he's tall, dark, and middle-eastern, and we've been checked in airports because of him. People are a little frightened of him at times. But maybe that's just cause he kicks trees as a hobby.
4) If we are individuals, why do you have to categorize people? Jews by race, for instance. Supposing a person stands in your way. And by chance, he is Jewish. Does that mean the Jewish race is in your way? No, it means one guy is in your way, and coincidentally he's Jewish. Though I'm suspecting I'm misunderstanding you again (not surprising... I'm bad at eloquence and understanding.)
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