Ecstatically happy

[ms_3m]

. . . . .and doing a dance of joy!!!!!  Figuratively speaking that is...but I really should be jumping up and down literally.

Short of actually creating an output file, Ulead works!  Wheeeee!   *delirious*

Basically I did the following.... 
1. Ran every type of adaware, spybot, anti-virus stinger I could think of to make sure these little buggers

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[ms_3m]

With MSP 7.0 you can lock tracks both the video and audio tracks. You can have a bazillion timelines for both. And you can view down to the single frame level. Be sure to do the last update. If you need the version 3 update file, let me know and I can upload it for you. Ulead 7.0, for the most part, has been a good software for me and I will continue using it. I started off with Premier Pro 7.0 and Ulead MSP 7.0 at the same time and decided on Ulead...and on and on.

If I understand you correctly (my lack of knowing correct terminology...) you can see the waveform...the squiggly lines. :D This was particularly handy when I wanted to repeat an effect on a repeating beat or make sure my fast clip changes happened on the beat. Side note: In case you aren't aware, the brain/audio/ear is out of synch with what the eye sees and it takes about three to four frames worth for your senses to catch up...so even if you use the waveform to place cuts, etc....I always slide everything three to four frames earlier. Additional side note: This is one explanation for why deja' vu happens...the brain/sensory lag time.

Yep, it is a pisser that people do not seem to want to share their avs scripts. Not sure what is up with that but if I had them, I would share. I think I might have a few somewhere. Not sure but I'll try and remember when I get home to take a look on my vidding computer and let you know what I find.

Gosh. I sure was a blabber mouth today.
:)

[amothea]

Lierderma told me about the frame trick because one of my last videos the timing was off a bit...and with Ulead Video Studio 9 you can't see the wave form so I had a really hard time getting the clips to match the beat...or fall on the beat..

I think the only other problem wtih the Media Studio Pro versions is I don't think either have a storyboard view and for some reason editing from the timeline is just weird! um but I guess i'm going to have to bite the bullet and get over the weirdness if I want waveform/locking tracks/and multiple video tracks. :) though I'm not sure why I'd need more than 3 or 4. :)

I'm trying to teach myself Adobe Premiere but it's slow going.

I figured once I get a good grasp on AVS scripts I'll share the ones I use to clip episodes so other music video editors at least have some idea or help.

um I don't mind your "blabber" :) In the ulead forums you can't really have discussions on video editing differences mostly it's just technically stuff and how to fix it. I think I might end up sticking with MSPro8...because I already have that one on my computer. I just can't split by scenes the clips into the library...(okay teh library set up kills me I like to re-use clips and it'll be nice to have all my Stargate and Supernatural clips load up every time I'm ready to vid.)

[ms_3m]

I just checked. MSP7 does have a storyboard/library function. I don't use it. Don't know how. Azonia my vidding partner uses it and made me aware of it but by the time I learned about it, I had already established my way of constructing a vid.




Ooo. I need to check to see if I have any avs scripts. Off to do that now.

:)

[ms_3m]

I didn't find any scripts but I did dig up this IM that I had with brihana25 (no spell checking, etc):

miss_3m (10:08:56 PM): so, which version of GK are you using?
brihana25 (10:12:18 PM): 0.28.7
brihana25 (10:12:42 PM): get the codec pack too. there are some really good ones in there
miss_3m (10:12:55 PM): there are three things to download.
brihana25 (10:13:10 PM): including the huffyuv loss .avi codec, which is the one i encode my actual clips with before i take them into premiere
brihana25 (10:13:21 PM): the rip pack, the codec pack, and... ?
miss_3m (10:13:33 PM): and a minor patch
brihana25 (10:13:38 PM): ah, ok.
miss_3m (10:13:55 PM): http://sourceforge.net/projects/gordianknot
brihana25 (10:14:03 PM): yeah, i know. i've already got it.
brihana25 (10:14:15 PM): i just forgot about it. i thought they'd gone and made something new. lol.
miss_3m (10:17:29 PM): oh gahhhh. I'm reading about avisnyth.....it hurt my brain.
miss_3m (10:18:15 PM): actually, I should have said I read about it earlier and it hurt my brain then. Now that I'm looking at it, it still hurts my brain.
brihana25 (10:18:16 PM): you don't need to know how it does what it does.
brihana25 (10:18:25 PM): it took me months to figure it out
miss_3m (10:18:29 PM): Scripts??????
brihana25 (10:18:36 PM): and the only reason i did it was so i could say that i could do it manually.
brihana25 (10:18:47 PM): there's a frameserver gui built in to gk
brihana25 (10:18:57 PM): you click three or four buttons, and it writes the script for you
miss_3m (10:19:21 PM): so why do you go through the hoops of using avisynth? or is it just the scripts part you bypass.
brihana25 (10:20:02 PM): right now, i use avisynth to create full-episode .avs files that will pull the .vob into vdub
brihana25 (10:20:20 PM): but i don't write the scripts myself. there's a gui in gk that writes them for me.
~ snip ~
brihana25 (10:29:59 PM): ok, here's a simple(ish) diagram thingy
miss_3m (10:30:18 PM): thank you!
miss_3m (10:30:33 PM): my brain thanks you.
brihana25 (10:30:34 PM): dvddecrypter -> dvd2avi -> avisynth -> virtual dub
brihana25 (10:30:41 PM): that's the order you use the apps in
brihana25 (10:30:50 PM): the file outputs are:
brihana25 (10:31:01 PM): .vob -> .d2v -> .avs -> .avi
brihana25 (10:31:25 PM): dvd decrypter rips the dvds into .vob files
brihana25 (10:31:44 PM): dvd2avi converts the .vob files to .d2v files, so that avisynth can work with them
brihana25 (10:32:10 PM): avisynth converts the .d2v files into .avs files that point back to (and load) the original .vob files
brihana25 (10:33:15 PM): virtualdub (i use) to cut the eps down into more manageable clips, to resize (to add my fake WS), and to run a second deinterlacer on
~*~

Not sure if this convo was enlighting for you but one never knows.
:D

[amothea]

a lot of this information was useful. :) I'm going to have to try this Gordian knot program. :)

well it's midnight and I have to get up early. :) I'll have to test this stuff out over the weekend.

[ms_3m]

Ahhhh. That little line that had no name = Preview Cursor.