хорошее о савецком союзе

Jul 06, 2011 17:26

несмотря на то, что СССР был агрессивной и [seemingly] мощной империей зла, были в этом и положительные аспекты. Холодная война не давала западу леветь, сдерживала процесс, который в остутствие реальной страшилки потек бесконтрольно и вышел из берегов... как лесной пожар ))


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stargeizer July 27 2011, 09:43:28 UTC
So you've dug the stupid thing up, and for what -- to have your intelligence insulted on multiple levels! ))) I told you it was a stroke of luck it got lost -- should have stayed gone... Anyhow, I vote for not escalating this.

Just to set the record straight -- believe it or not, I was actually honest about the misread, didn't see it until you pointed it out (this ascribing of ulterior motives -- what do I possibly stand to gain from being coy?). It wasn't your views I was arguing against there: you said something like "when the public perceives science being done for science's (sic!) sake, it cuts the funding". My response was, well, the public is just plain wrong, and needs to have this explained to it. And btw, the mistake wasn't that fatal: after all, there can't be science without scientists.

I do respect your dislike for the left, as I hope you do my dislike for the right. I actually also dislike the left, albeit to a lesser degree -- i think I've told you so before. But these are matters of mere opinion. What can in principle be subject to rational discussion is the perception of reality: which side is dominating, or posing the greatest danger -- those matters are subject to empirical verification, at least to some degree. That said, I do feel a bit sore at you for constantly making a bogeyman out of the left -- that's just not the reality that I perceive: where is your evidence? )). But I certainly don't see any basis for conflict here -- like you said, it's just not worth it.

The alarm is going off in my head, I just can't help it, sorry. You don't have to listen if you don't want to, but if you can't shut it out of your head -- talk to your conscience! )))

Finally, thanks for the kind words. I am passionate about science, but I did not sign up for martyrdom -- it certainly didn't look that way in the beginning (and it shouldn't be that way, as I keep arguing so passionately at every corner). I'm surprised I've held out for as long as I have. Of course I'm worried about the future -- the curse of any intelligent life form -- but then I remind myself that it is no less uncertain for people in much more comfortable positions (I've seen examples). In my turn, I respect you enormously for going in that classroom without a bulletproof vest every morning -- that takes the kind of guts I will never have. I hope you derive at least some satisfaction out of it. Peace!

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