Election Day in the U.S.

Nov 04, 2008 08:03

Today, dear American friends, is the day you make history. Please remember that your voting system is believed by many to be... suspect, to put it politely, so your vote counts even more, no matter where you live or how "safe" you believe your preferred candidate to be ( Read more... )

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whiskeygirl8 November 4 2008, 17:09:12 UTC
I would be extremely shocked if this is the first election that kind of stuff happened during. I would also be extremely shocked if both sides were not equal participants. Politics is a dirty business. There is nothing innocent or straightforward about it. They all lie and they all play dirty.

It only seems to be liberals who are shocked by this. Which doesn't surprise me, since they seem to be the ones who tend to think we can make the world all sunshine and roses if we just get rid of guns and the military and give everyone money and talk nice to the grumpy dictators. (That last paragraph is very much not directed toward you because I know you are not wearing rose-colored glasses. Most of those on the left side so very much are, though.)

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mousme November 4 2008, 19:09:43 UTC
Nah, I'm not shocked. I remember being shocked in 2000, but I was twenty-one and far more gullible back then. ;)

It's just Canadians come up and tell me how "sure" they are that Obama is going to win, and I keep shaking my head and telling them that nothing is sure until all the votes have been tallied.

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whiskeygirl8 November 4 2008, 19:16:31 UTC
You know, if you really look at it, it's not shocking at all that Bush won in either 2000 or 2004. I mean, really, Gore and Kerry?

I do expect Obama to win this year. As a Republican, I have no problem with that. Of course, you know that and know why since you read my LJ.

I just get annoyed by people who seem to think that he and his people are perfect and would never, ever lie to them or do anything else that politicians do and that the Democratic party would never do anything untoward. It's politics. Everyone is tainted. (Everyone being all those involved in the campaigns and in government, not the voters and volunteers.)

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mousme November 4 2008, 19:24:36 UTC
I know what you mean.

The "OMG Obama is going to save us all from DOOM!" is a little disheartening, not because I don't think Obama will be good for your country (I think he will), but because Obama on some of the big issues is a little to the right of Canada's most right-wing party. It's bizarre to me to think that. :)

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whiskeygirl8 November 5 2008, 05:24:31 UTC
Well, really I was thinking more of ethical issues, because whether or not a person is good for the country based on where they land on the political scale is wholly a matter of opinion. And, you know, he could end up being the best president this nation has had in a long time. That doesn't make him perfect, though, or above doing what all politicians do. I mean, Kennedy is widely considered to have been a good president, but he certainly wasn't always perfectly ethical. (And I'm not even talking about his extramarital activities.)

I mean, politicians lie and engage in shady practices. That's what they do. Everywhere.

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