I admit, I was too harsh on Buffy's characterization for the argument's sake. Re: Angel - I really hope they'll introduce more convincing explanation.
Actually, your impression of Buffy as uber-bitch in Sanctuary was the same one I had, and it seemed a bit over-the-top IMO. She was the person who had literally "walked a mile" in someone else's shoes, and she certainly had a right to be angry, but at the end of WAY it was Riley, not Buffy, making the dismissive/judgmental remark "Well I guess she's had her fun now". (Of course, he had just slept with Faith in Buffy's body, and we can call that rape, but there was that awkwardness.) So maybe not OOC but a bit OOT?
I haven't seen TGiQ so I can't comment on that one.
What bugs me is Angel's phrase "Why does everyone have such a hard time getting this?" Um, Angel - because it didn't look that way.
Actually, when I read the phrase, I hear the writers complaining: "Why does everyone have such a hard time getting this? It happened because on BtVS Angel was servicing Buffy's journey. That's how our storytelling works. When Buffy was servicing Angel's journey on AtS, she was depicted as a jealous bitch in "Sanctuary" or as a stupid bimbo in "The Girl in Question". Now Angel is back in his own title, and he's protected with the protagonist privilege again. Deal with it."
EXACTLY.
The other thing that bothers me here is that the failure of everyone else to "get it" is immediately pinned on Buffy by Angel - and Willow is tee-heeing in agreement. Oh just give me a BREAK. Buffy, the person everyone actually complains doesn't talk enough, doesn't say the right words, is too closed-off, etc is suddenly Miss Chatterbox? And this coming from Angel and Willow - from Miss Runs-at-the-Mouth Rosenberg? (And I love Willow, btw, but that was always part of her characterization.) I just...gah.
Actually, your impression of Buffy as uber-bitch in Sanctuary was the same one I had, and it seemed a bit over-the-top IMO. She was the person who had literally "walked a mile" in someone else's shoes, and she certainly had a right to be angry, but at the end of WAY it was Riley, not Buffy, making the dismissive/judgmental remark "Well I guess she's had her fun now". (Of course, he had just slept with Faith in Buffy's body, and we can call that rape, but there was that awkwardness.) So maybe not OOC but a bit OOT?
I haven't seen TGiQ so I can't comment on that one.
What bugs me is Angel's phrase "Why does everyone have such a hard time getting this?" Um, Angel - because it didn't look that way.
Actually, when I read the phrase, I hear the writers complaining: "Why does everyone have such a hard time getting this? It happened because on BtVS Angel was servicing Buffy's journey. That's how our storytelling works. When Buffy was servicing Angel's journey on AtS, she was depicted as a jealous bitch in "Sanctuary" or as a stupid bimbo in "The Girl in Question". Now Angel is back in his own title, and he's protected with the protagonist privilege again. Deal with it."
EXACTLY.
The other thing that bothers me here is that the failure of everyone else to "get it" is immediately pinned on Buffy by Angel - and Willow is tee-heeing in agreement. Oh just give me a BREAK. Buffy, the person everyone actually complains doesn't talk enough, doesn't say the right words, is too closed-off, etc is suddenly Miss Chatterbox? And this coming from Angel and Willow - from Miss Runs-at-the-Mouth Rosenberg? (And I love Willow, btw, but that was always part of her characterization.) I just...gah.
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