BUFFY #5 - spoilery specs

[moscow_watcher]

"I imagine this issue of Buffy will leave fans talking, and some of it is gonna be unhappy..." (Scott Allie in the lettercol). Boy, was he right. "Some of it" was so unhappy that Whedonesque issued a new rule: people who don't like comics are not allowed to post in comics threads. "Post again and you're banned from this site forever. All this at

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[mrs_underhill]

I saw your point on Whedonesque, about how being drunk during conception can jeopardize baby's health, and you were speaking my mind.
I knew people when I was in college ~20 years ago who were in this situation and for whom it ended in lots of pain. :(
Women would want to do anything in their power to give the best for the baby - quit smoking and drinking, eat healthy etc. But then again, women having power in this - what a ridiculous notion.

But after reading the comments and seeing how they banned negative feedback, I wasn't comfortable posting my thoughts there.

The way Allie speaks about it, being oh so generous on Buffy in not blaming her for this situation, is offensive.
How about blaming the jerk(s) who did it to her?!
Someone, or maybe even several people (isn't it fun to guess?), used Buffy for sex when she was out of it, and didn't even bother to use condoms!
I love how some male posters are going out of their way there to shift the blame off the guy(s) who did it. Oh, maybe it was her who took advantage, or maybe they both were out of it - pathetic! It's her paying the price which they cannot even comprehend!

There was a recent case in Boston when two policemen escorted a drunk woman home, and took her being very out of it and grateful to get home as an invitation for taking turns in having sex with her.
Guess what - she sued them and they both are facing jail sentences now, and I say - all the power to that woman!

But again, women power doesn't seem to be Buffy theme anymore...

I'm not against Buffy a single mother storyline, would make sense for her to finally decide - screw it, I'll never get a normal boyfriend or husband, but at least I can get a child all to myself so that we can love each other. Lots of women are taking this route.
But the way it's shaping up is nasty - especially if they make Buffy blame herself after all this, and decide she "has to deal" (words of some poster, *shudder*), instead of confronting the guy who put her in this position.

I was keeping an eye on storyline without reading but now it's time to stop even that and just look at the covers. That cover of Buffy and Spike being domestic is awesome but I'd rather not know what would go on behind it.

[moscow_watcher]

I saw your point on Whedonesque, about how being drunk during conception can jeopardize baby's health, and you were speaking my mind.
I knew people when I was in college ~20 years ago who were in this situation and for whom it ended in lots of pain. :(

Interestingly, only two posters talked about it - me and another fan, who is from Russia, too! And I was told by a mod that it's not dangerous to conceive in a drunk state.

*shrugs*

I don't know what to think about it. I guess I hope that Joss will eventually reveal that Buffy wasn't dead drunk, but she was influenced by fairy's vibes (Tink was there - Spike's line about "giant mosquito" was directed at her). Or something.

I love how some male posters are going out of their way there to shift the blame off the guy(s) who did it. Oh, maybe it was her who took advantage, or maybe they both were out of it - pathetic! It's her paying the price which they cannot even comprehend!

Yes, it's interesting how the dynamic of the fandom changed as soon as Buffy crossed over to comics. There is a lot of fanboys who look at Buffy through male eyes. I often visit BuffyForums, and I remember a 30-pages long debates about dubcon immediately after the first issue. Was Buffy raped? Was she under influence?

If Buffy went to Heinrich to invite him, spent 20 minutes there and came back by her own - she wasn't dead drunk. Yet she doesn't remember anything ( she was very drunk in "Life Serial" - but she remembered what happened.) I wonder if her amnesia is just a convenient plot device to create a "who's the daddy" mystery or the indication that something unusual happened at the party.

I'm not against Buffy a single mother storyline

I don't think there will be a single mother storyline. I expect all kinds of horrors happening to Buffy's baby :((((

I was keeping an eye on storyline without reading but now it's time to stop even that and just look at the covers. That cover of Buffy and Spike being domestic is awesome but I'd rather not know what would go on behind it.

I'm weak - I can't keep from reading. I try to distance from fandom opinions, but it's hard - suddenly, the level of passion and controversy is as high as during "Twilight" arc.