I really haven't decided how I feel about same sex unions. I disagree with them being labeled as marriage, but as for civil unions being allowed I really haven't decided. I think that this is an end run around baring same sex couples from having children without ever labeling it as such.
As far as screening would be parents why don't they mandate childclasses for *anyone* who is pregnant then? Or "screen" everyone who is married and wanting to have a baby? I've done the whole infertility thing, you already have people judging you left and right (ESPECIALLY in the church) to then have to jump through a hurdle to have the government decide whether or not you are fit to be a parent merely because biologicially you are having issues..that's just wrong. And if you don't think that's what's going on, then try going through the preadoption process, I have. You fill out hundreds of pages of questions ranging from not just parental styles to "how would you rate your physical intimacy" (and this is through LDSFS no less). Not to mention the interviews and the fingerprinting and background checks. In an adoption situation where it's someone else's child in the balence, I get it. However to do that to someone merely because their body isn't maybe functioning quite right? Not to mention the fact that these background checks can take months (ours took 8 months to clear) during which time you are waiting to get started perhaps missing some of your most fertile times. No, that's just wrong.
As far as screening would be parents why don't they mandate childclasses for *anyone* who is pregnant then?
Great idea. I think they should do this. But that's not screening. I still say that aside from tyranny issues, issuing pregnancy licenses is not a bad idea. It would help cut down on a huge number of problems in our society.
There is, of course, the problem with an uptick in abortions if this happens, but I think if we offered free birth control to everyone, that wouldn't be an issue anymore, would it? It would not be that hard to mandate adoption or marriage for unmarried mothers. Alas, once again, tyranny issues abound.
I've done the whole infertility thing, you already have people judging you left and right (ESPECIALLY in the church) to then have to jump through a hurdle to have the government decide whether or not you are fit to be a parent merely because biologicially you are having issues..that's just wrong. And if you don't think that's what's going on, then try going through the preadoption process, I have. You fill out hundreds of pages of questions ranging from not just parental styles to "how would you rate your physical intimacy" (and this is through LDSFS no less). Not to mention the interviews and the fingerprinting and background checks. In an adoption situation where it's someone else's child in the balence, I get it. However to do that to someone merely because their body isn't maybe functioning quite right? Not to mention the fact that these background checks can take months (ours took 8 months to clear) during which time you are waiting to get started perhaps missing some of your most fertile times. No, that's just wrong.
It sounds like you've had a hard time and I'm very sorry to hear that. That doesn't make it wrong to establish guidelines and standards with regard to our children. I wouldn't have any problem with society requiring certain standards from people before they have children. I would guess that there would be far fewer problems if that were the case.
As far as screening would be parents why don't they mandate childclasses for *anyone* who is pregnant then? Or "screen" everyone who is married and wanting to have a baby? I've done the whole infertility thing, you already have people judging you left and right (ESPECIALLY in the church) to then have to jump through a hurdle to have the government decide whether or not you are fit to be a parent merely because biologicially you are having issues..that's just wrong. And if you don't think that's what's going on, then try going through the preadoption process, I have. You fill out hundreds of pages of questions ranging from not just parental styles to "how would you rate your physical intimacy" (and this is through LDSFS no less). Not to mention the interviews and the fingerprinting and background checks. In an adoption situation where it's someone else's child in the balence, I get it. However to do that to someone merely because their body isn't maybe functioning quite right? Not to mention the fact that these background checks can take months (ours took 8 months to clear) during which time you are waiting to get started perhaps missing some of your most fertile times. No, that's just wrong.
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Great idea. I think they should do this. But that's not screening. I still say that aside from tyranny issues, issuing pregnancy licenses is not a bad idea. It would help cut down on a huge number of problems in our society.
There is, of course, the problem with an uptick in abortions if this happens, but I think if we offered free birth control to everyone, that wouldn't be an issue anymore, would it? It would not be that hard to mandate adoption or marriage for unmarried mothers. Alas, once again, tyranny issues abound.
I've done the whole infertility thing, you already have people judging you left and right (ESPECIALLY in the church) to then have to jump through a hurdle to have the government decide whether or not you are fit to be a parent merely because biologicially you are having issues..that's just wrong. And if you don't think that's what's going on, then try going through the preadoption process, I have. You fill out hundreds of pages of questions ranging from not just parental styles to "how would you rate your physical intimacy" (and this is through LDSFS no less). Not to mention the interviews and the fingerprinting and background checks. In an adoption situation where it's someone else's child in the balence, I get it. However to do that to someone merely because their body isn't maybe functioning quite right? Not to mention the fact that these background checks can take months (ours took 8 months to clear) during which time you are waiting to get started perhaps missing some of your most fertile times. No, that's just wrong.
It sounds like you've had a hard time and I'm very sorry to hear that. That doesn't make it wrong to establish guidelines and standards with regard to our children. I wouldn't have any problem with society requiring certain standards from people before they have children. I would guess that there would be far fewer problems if that were the case.
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