In which I declare myself a fandom heretic

Dec 06, 2010 15:44

After the euphoria of Atla's Book 3 (Fire) wore off, I realized that I had some issues with it. And some is an understatement. It took me a while (another understatement) to put them together with any degree of coherency. I don't think I succeeded. But here they are, at last, to all intents and cathartic purposes.

Cut for spoilers and heresies )

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moonspinner December 8 2010, 13:25:53 UTC
No more deleted comments, pinky swear. Of course, it’s easy for me to swear now that the whole discussion has ended up being so tame. I wonder where the idea that it’d devolve into a raging wankfest came from? :P

See, the only way people will have reasonable discourse about how they think relationships were handled in this story is by not thinking in terms of 'my ship won!'.
WORD. Because having Aang and Katara suck face in the end doesn’t negate or erase all the other ways their story could have been better or all the other flaws in S3 that had nothing to do with shipping or the fact that while I am not a Zutara fan, I do not like fan baiting nor do I like creators engaging with fandom just so as to tell a section that they are ‘doing it wrong’.

Zuko the King of Angst angsts about dumping Uncle Iroh, and about his father once being a baby, and about his sister, and his mother, and definitely about Katara not liking him… but he doesn’t spare a thought for the girl who nearly died trying to get him to safety. How do Mai fans think this is romantic?

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alexb49 December 8 2010, 14:02:35 UTC
I forgot to say something else about canon. While creators do what they wish with their intellectual property for it to enter the realm of canon, there's plenty of examples where the creators go off the flippin' deep end. As for the essentials of the finale of S3 being planned from the beginning, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a writer who would willingly admit that they pulled it out of their ass. I believe they said in the artbook that Mai wasn't in the first draft of their story outline at all and she was only introduced much later. For shows like Lost or Twin Peaks, when the show was in production the writers were adamant that they had some grand plan when afterwards they admitted that this was not the case.

The other thing about Mai and the knife throwing at Sokka holding tom-tom is this: since the show is rooted in martial arts culture, those who do weapons work are taught a great respect for the damage they can cause with their weapon of choice. Yes, Mai would be skilled enough to hit a specific target as shown in the show but for her to do that, she would also understand that a target's behavior can be unpredictable. The show had the ability to be subtle in plenty of other areas. If they intended to show this as a moment of Azula testing Mai's loyalty, showing that conflict would have made the attack more meaningful, and Mai's rebellion later on more significant. That they do not allow her to show a second of hesitation at attacking someone who is carrying her brother makes her out to be a sociopath. There's a big difference between being on the outs with your family and not batting an eye at the possibility of their death.

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moonspinner December 8 2010, 14:18:35 UTC
If they intended to show this as a moment of Azula testing Mai's loyalty, showing that conflict would have made the attack more meaningful, and Mai's rebellion later on more significant. That they do not allow her to show a second of hesitation at attacking someone who is carrying her brother makes her out to be a sociopath.
When Azula ‘recruits’ Ty Lee there is this whole segue of moments - from her scowl when Ty Lee turns her down, to the circus show, to the sweat on Ty Lee’s brow when Azula ‘alters the performance’ to Ty Lee’s “Circus called. Azula called louder.” I’ve seen the argument that Mai was smarter and didn’t want to even give Azula the impression that she was resistant. But why then show that Mai was already bored on Omashu? That Mai already liked combat and already thought that Aang, etc. were her enemies and had already attacked them before Azula even showed? Why show Mai attack Sokka at all? Why doesn’t she hesitate when Azula has gone half-way across Omashu chasing down Aang and Bumi’s coffin? And beyond that, why go out of their way to show that Mai could pick and choose when to defy Azula unlike Ty Lee who always obeyed Azula? It was almost as if the writers were setting Ty Lee up to be the one who ultimately gets fed up with following orders and turns on Azula and Mai as the wild card mook whose eventual allegiance comes as a surprise.

There's a big difference between being on the outs with your family and not batting an eye at the possibility of their death.

This. And if the excuse for Mai’s decision with respect to Tom-Tom is really just that she wasn’t happy that her parents made her learn manners… then that would make sense - for a sociopath. But for someone who were supposed to be sympathetic to and ultimately root for... not so much.

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