Some thoughts

Oct 02, 2008 23:48

1. Greed and corruption on Wall Street is not a revelation ( Read more... )

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niffer5150 October 3 2008, 14:16:17 UTC
no kidding on #5. what a joke.
i couldn't believe she said the people who got shitty loans weren't responsible and "it's not your fault". i guess anyone retarded enough to not read loan papers or do an of the math *would* believe that they had _nothing_ to do with it.

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fiametta October 3 2008, 20:37:48 UTC
Certainly the record high levels in job losses have something to do with people not being able to afford mortgages that they previously were able to afford too. There's also the fact that some places in the world don't have any houses for <300K, or more and so one must either move away from friends and family where it is more affordable and there are more jobs (the smart thing to do) or buy a house they can barely afford and won't be able to afford is anything changes for the worse at all.

IMO The blame neither lies *solely* on 'wall street greed,' nor on 'stupid people living beyond their means.' Shit happened - and it was a multi-variable causality that has been long overdue - that's the way I see it, anyway.

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niffer5150 October 3 2008, 21:23:03 UTC
i agree. there's enough variables on the whole collapse, that no one side can take the brunt of the blame, BUT i think absolving people of their portion of it is absurd. every single person from the buyers, to the loan officers, to the big companies, should all feel the shame of this.

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fiametta October 4 2008, 00:08:57 UTC
Yeah, I totally agree - that we *all* need to feel the burn of the shame to avoid starting this fire again. It's not someone else's problem, it's OUR problem. In my lab, when something big fucks up we all help to get it back on track b/c we know it affects us all. Humans weren't meant to work together in such large groups, perhaps. :sigh: (Ugh... I sigh a lot these days :eyeroll:)

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fiametta October 4 2008, 18:30:16 UTC
I just wish people would wake up and smell the inflation... It's like people just don't seem to understand that part of the reason why people can no longer afford the homes they bought a few years back is because gas prices weren't near $4 a gallon and food was cheaper when they were doing the math of what they could afford, so even if someone didn't lose their job when the economy crashed their money doesn't go as far these days as it used to back then. Then the banks don't make back their money on repos b/c the houses are worth way less than what the people had planned to pay before hard times hit.

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