Well... it's about damn time...

Mar 18, 2004 16:46

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dru_clix March 18 2004, 14:59:51 UTC
Trevor. At one point I did want Jess to choose. Simply because I just couldnt stand the fact that we were supposedly equel when it seemed obviously in your favor. I expected her to choose you. I just wanted to be able to pat myself on the back for knowing that I lost rather than continue an endless loop of losing. ><;... Really she should NOT have to choose. But, in the end its YOU who is making her choose. I could totally live with dating Jess if she was still your friend. It might make things awkward but, I could live with it. (or atleast try) It was you who decided that her wanting to spend time with me makes her unable to be your friend. But, did you ever consider maybe she spends more time with me because she has more fun with me..?

I understand that you hate me. It should just be noted that your reasons to hate me are selfish. I still understand though. For a while when I hated you. These types of reasons (though obviously not exactly) where what made me hate you. As of now I dont hate you (or actually, as of since the Liz breakup.) You seem like a troubled soul who needs hugged. So heres what I'm doing Trevor.

..........*hugs*

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monk_sama March 18 2004, 15:13:15 UTC
Dru, shut the fuck up. I'm sick of your lies to justify yourself. You have a way to justify everything, don't you? The lies need to stop, Dru. You are a liar. There is no reason why you would want Jess to choose me over you. You are a damned fool. If you thought that then you wouldn't have tried to make her choose you over me.

Dru, you are a goddamn moron. Did you realize that she never gave me the chance? She never hung out with me in person before. She had two chances and it was YOU in the end. You are just an idiot, Dru. You really are.

They aren't selfish at all you fucking idiot. They aren't selfihs in the least. You tried to make my friend hate me. You succeeded in making my friends feel like shit via Liz and Jess. You succeeded in treating Liz horribly. You succeeded in making Liz's life a hell before and after the break up. You still are! And now you are going to do it to Jess.

YOU are the selfish one. You are a pathetic attention whoring asshole who cares about noone but himself. You have yet to show me once why you deserve nothing but my hate. You damn well hate me and you know it. You are such a goddamn liar and I'm sick of it. Do you realize that I told one person exactly how you are when this person used to support you going out with Jess and now this person changed his/her mind? Doesn't that tell you something?

So in short. Go fuck yourself and die, Dru. And I am being dead serious. You deserve every bit of it.

I may look like Joelle, but trust me... I know what the fuck I am talking about here and all you do is lie, manipulate, and justify all your wrongs.

Back up your facts and defend the points I make before making any of your own.

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Dance for my amusement. dru_clix March 18 2004, 15:48:34 UTC
You dont sound like Joelle. Joelle sounded more like, "clarissa" you sound more like, "Looking for Love" ...Joelle had blind rage and jealosy, you have rage supported by wants and needs that are understandable. Heres my point though. You have a biased perspective of me. Honestly, you hated me ALWAYS. Before you even had a reason to do so. You and, Liz may both believe me to be a manipulative force of evil who represents all that is wrong in the world but, obviously others dont.

You want the reason that I might have wanted Jess to choose me over you? Its because with out it I knew ONE OF US would end up like this. If there wasnt some clear cut choice one of us would end up whiny and bitchy over the fact that she just happened to be paying more attention to the other that day. Actually I dont hate you. You make me angry and, right now I damn well feel like I should hate you but, before now I could always see your side of things. I think thats why you always got under my skin. Because in everything with Liz, you where right. I wasnt meant for Liz and, I wasnt even doing well with Liz. I wasnt what she was looking for. She considers me to be many a thing that I totally disagree with but, its her opinion just as yours is yours. I just wish things hadnt worked out the way they had. In another time another place, we might have gotten along quite well. (Think about it.)

I never wanted Jess to hate you and, the only person who is trying to make Jess hate you right now is you. She wants your friendship. She doesnt need this angsty bullshit. She wants to be happy and, as of right now? I make her happy. I want to do that for as long as I can and, I wish you would try and do the same. Honestly, you are over reacting. Jess and I like eachother, what does this have to do with you? How does this effect you in the least..?

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Re: Dance for my amusement. monk_sama March 18 2004, 16:07:54 UTC
Needs? Please. You are pathetic. I have no needs you idiot. I didn't trust you until you blatently insulted Liz and her friends, then I hated you. You are a manipulative little asshole and you damn well know it.

You are such a fucking liar. You kept telling Jess "Monk doesn't respect you! Monk doesn't like me so you can't be friends with him! Monk is mean and evil!" You are a god damn idiot. You know you wanted her to hate me so stop trying to say you don't. And Dru, you know the reason why I'm not friends with Jess anymore? Once again, NOT because you are going out with her or because she spent more time with you. It's that she refused to hang out with me and lied to me about liking you. She's said "I liked him on Sunday." to someone, "I liked him on Saturday" to another and I've also heard "I don't know when I liked him." and to me it was "I don't and never will like him." Trust is a very important thing, and I thought I had that with Jess.

And what do you disagree with in a person with Liz? She is more charitable and nicer than anyone I know that deserves it. Did that give you a right to bitch at her every waking moment for nothing? She didn't deserve that. Noone does. But you do it anyway. You are sad.

You blatently said you wanted Jess to stop being friends with me, with no reason. It was blatent and obvious. I saw the convo and I am hardly being angsty. If anyone is angsty, it's you. "Noone likes me... Hey! My friends just said they loved me. Ooooh woe is me... noone likes me. Awww... my friends just hugged me... Waaaaah..."

Stop trying to manipulate my words, Dru. And I'd appreciate it if you would stop ignoring the things you can't make lies about to save your ass.

And I would never be friends with you. Only if I were blinded from the truth, which I wasn't. And considering how you were at Tekko and the dance, I'm sure I could spend one day with you and instantly dislike you.

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Re: Rythm. The boy needs rythm. dru_clix March 18 2004, 16:16:02 UTC
I havent lied man. Jeesh.. I didnt think you were being like Joelle but.. wow.

See I only bitched at Liz after the breakup. Before that, what I said shouldnt have been taken so seriously. Honestly. Also, some of the stuff I said to Jess has proved to be accurate to an extent hasnt it? Personally, I never wanted her to hate you. I just wanted to put it out there that I had to intentions of battling with you over the fact that I enjoyed her company. At this point, I still dont. I dont want to have to fight you because I like Jess and because she likes me.

My point is I'm not the evil the way you portray me and, I really dont understand where you Liz and, the others came up with that.

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Re: Rythm. The boy needs rythm. monk_sama March 18 2004, 16:31:13 UTC
Dru, I remember a situation where you told Lauren that Liz was insulting her in one convo. (Ya know, the one where you said wasn't a big deal... and only felt bad when she found out?) Then Liz read the convo to Lauren... funny how you constantly get caught in your lies.

And no matter what, YOU DON'T INSULT YOUR GIRLFRIEND! NO MATTER WHAT! YOU WERE SERIOUS ABOUT IT!

Tell me something you said about me that proved accurate. Everything Joelle said was accurate to an extent. You proved it yourself. You wonder why so many of your former friends dislike you now. It's because they saw how you really are.

And dude, you wanted her to stop being my friend. It's obvious... you have nothing going for you in that argument but "I didn't say I wanted her to stop being your friend!" and that doesn't win debates.

Dru, I have so much evidence against you in the 'evil' area it's not even funny. Want me to list it all, I sure will.

And what I want to point out is how much smaller your argument get as I start to prove you wrong. Typically, in an argument, you usually respond to all the points that your opponent makes. Keep that in mind with your next response.

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Re: Rythm. The boy needs rythm. dru_clix March 18 2004, 16:40:09 UTC
I'm responding less because its boring me. No matter what I will walk away feeling right and, so will you. We will both feel like we won in the end no matter what is said. Your that big of an ass-dyke and, I'm just willing to go with the flow.

In regards to Lauren, I WAS THE ONE WHO TOLD LAUREN ABOUT THAT BY THE WAY. I actually felt really shitty about it so, I apologized to her in an email ahead of time. Thats when she asked Liz to read her the conversation. I still maintain that it wasnt a big deal because I DIDNT MEAN ANY OF IT. Obviously though, feelings where hurt and, relationships where shattered.

Dont insult my girlfriend? What the fuck? Are you saying just because I'm dating someone I shouldnt insult them? I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who feels this way but, FUCK THAT. If someone (anyone) does something that gives me the urge to insult them and, I feel to a degree they deserve it, I -will- insult them. Honestly, its anti-women to say that you should treat your girlfriend differently then you do everyone else. The only thing I want to be different than a friendship with my girlfriend is how I feel about her. No insult will change the way I feel and, it really shouldnt change the way they feel. Plus, I think the worst my insults ever got with Liz (before the breakup) where, "FFX fangirl!" and, I think you have already said how much you dislike my dislike of FFX.

Yeah, I wanted her to stop being your friend, I just figured that it wouldnt happen. Like I said, I was expecting her to either stay nuetral or, choose you. She personally wants to stay nuetral. (to my knowledge)

List my evil Trevor. List it all. I want to see my evil. EEEEVIL. ^^

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Re: Rythm. The boy needs rythm. monk_sama March 18 2004, 16:57:35 UTC
lol... Sure, excuses excuses.. you really ought to comment on the important things that make you look like a damned fool.

Liz can take care of the Lauren thing... and the girlfriend thing. :) It's her area where you lied, not mine. All I have to say is: You took it lightly, too lightly. And you also make yourself look so horrible with that girlfriend part... I hope you realize that.

There you go... and you tried nonstop to make her think that, Dru. That is really fucking low, and I hope you know that. You are pathetic... go die.

"1. Tried to convince Jess I was a horrible friend to her and she had to choose between us.

2. He says he's a great friend to Jess, and yet he doesn't even back her up or bother to comfort her when she was being bitched out and crying. But he can still just cuddle the entire day.

3. He is a self-serving dickhead. He doesn't know what love is. He made his relationship with Liz seem much more than it was. You know what his relationship with her consisted of? Smothering her with gropes and choking hugs. Gee, he was such a great boyfriend... wasn't he?"

My response to Miranda's lj where she thinks I shouldn't hate you... Be happy that's all I said.

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Re: Well, he can keep the beat but, he isnt taking any risks.. dru_clix March 18 2004, 17:08:00 UTC
I dont care how I look. If I'm going to call a person who elbows me in the stomach a cockmonger, I dont care if they happen to be my girlfriend. What would she expect me to say? "Oh honey, thats so sweet of you to JAB ME IN THE FUCKING STOMACH WITH YOUR ICY-DEATH BRINGING ELBOW!" Is that what I should say?

And, I never said that I was a great boyfriend. The Liz thing just meant alot to me. I'm not saying it did to her but, to me it meant alot. --;

Actually, I dont care how Jess feels about you for, if you are making her happy I will be happy that you are around, Just FROM MY VIEW; you are a horrible friend to her. (and to the other people you are friends with) You are a just a weak and, dirty shell of what at one time might have been a decent human being.

In regards to your list, I'm pissed off at it actually, not a single thing on that list really is, "evil" its more just a random assortment of whiny bullshit. Give me a list that actually could damage Jess' opinion of me and, maybe I'll drop a few tears at it.

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Re: Well, he can keep the beat but, he isnt taking any risks.. monk_sama March 18 2004, 17:17:20 UTC
And Liz can respond to your first two parts...

And from mine and most everyone else's point of view, you are a dickheaded moronic fool who only cares for himself. The difference is, we have proof. And considering that you are saying >I< am a horrible friend to people makes that comment a joke.

Bullshit? That is really really interesting. And Jess refuses to see people's point of view and just says "No! Dru is a good person... people just want to protect me! They don't know what they are talking about..."

Once you prove it to be bullshit, then it can be called bullshit. Otherwise, it is merely just a weak defense on your part.

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Re: Rythm. The boy needs rythm. tokyokitsune March 18 2004, 17:08:33 UTC
NiGHTS 32b (11:51:57 PM): Well thats like me and forums like (from what I can tell) LoD2 are like. I am a coward and you people are ass-holes. I am a coward because I know for a fact I have nothing in common with any of you (as I always manage to be an "outcast among outcasts" -Mike) and that if I state my opinions I will be fiercely out-numbered by people who disagree and I will end up in my own little corner crying like a bitch. The part about you people being ass-holes is in truth you consider yourselves holier-than-thou by playing games like lod and ff8 through ff10-2 and calling them gold. Or watching anime like "Ah-My-Goddess" or Fruits Basket and thinking yourselves unique. You are just as media-controlled as the people who run around buying ambercrombie so that they wont be considered uncool.

Nice, Dru, nice. And the comment about LoD-Squared came from before you even joined the damned forum. *Sighs* I took what you said as a very obvious insult and obviously took it seriously. As I've said countless times I'm sure you were going through your own problems but so was I. In the end it comes down to the fact that it gives you no excuse to flip out on my repeatedly. You made my life hell for a long while. Accept that. I know you're caught up in your own delusional little world many a time but I'm being very honest with you. Also, I don't hate you for that: I hate you because you wouldn't let me go. I tried to break up with you and remain friends but you would have none of that. God forbid. Instead of acting remotely mature you flipped out even more so and fed lies to my friends about me... Well, either lies or some of the most exagerrated truths I've ever laid eyes on. I was harassed and convinced that I was a horrible person and that everyone viewed me as an 'elitist bitch'.

Also, about the Lauren thing. From what I've heard you e-mailed her and said that I was insulting her and you were defending her. That you want nothing more than to protect her from either me or everything that was happening in general. Either way you were lying and she obviously felt lied to after I read her the convo word for word.

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Re: Rythm. The boy needs rythm. dru_clix March 18 2004, 17:15:45 UTC
THAT insulted you? o_0;; Jesus. Honestly, thats some trivial (and accurate) shit right there. I'm not going to take back that statement in IM as, well, yeah. ^_^;;

Actually I didnt say ANYTHING to ANY of your friends about you being a horrible person. Thats how I felt and, I didnt think anyone else needed to feel that way. I never even mentioned my angst outside of my livejournal and, most of your friends dont read my livejournal.

I emailed Lauren and, said that I had insulted the fuck out of her but, tried to explain that it was in the context that you didnt particuarly care for her. I apologized because of what I had said about her. All I mentioned of you was that you had insulted her too. (though I -did- point out that mine was far worse) I dont know how she got an alternate idea. I still have the email saved. I make a special point to mention that -I- was being a moron.

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Re: Rythm. The boy needs rythm. tokyokitsune March 18 2004, 17:31:19 UTC
I confronted you about it insulting me. How is that a new revelation? Its also horribly untrue and I did nothing to deserve it. Really, if our relationship meant a lot to you wouldn't you know me better than that?

Also, the majority of people I know that know who you are read your livejournal. I said that and asked you to please stop publically venting about me when you refused to hear my side of the story.

As for the Lauren thing, since I only heard her talk about it and there may have been some miscommunication I'll drop it. I don't know what happened, its between the two of you.

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Re: Rythm. The boy needs rythm. tokyokitsune March 18 2004, 17:17:37 UTC
Also, what did I do to deserve insults? I gave you a link to a forum I belonged to and in a later conversation (that I believe I failed to save) stated that I liked the graphics of Zelda: OoT and MM and found the the Windwaker ones creepy. Wow, how insultive. I was also as nice about breaking up as humanly possible.

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