“Everyone except Rose”

[mls03j]

I went ahead and deleted my last journal entry. I shouldn’t post things at four o’clock in the morning. And I shouldn’t post things that are just this side of a temper tantrum at all. But since I did, I thought I should try and write

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[grimorie]

Oh, I'm glad I'm not the only Rose fan who was dissatisfied. I liked her entrance and the way she chased away the looters and when she killed the Dalek, I was even amused by the snippy comments (she crossed universes and can't even join in the special Doctor conversation!) although I wished Russell stopped.

But I couldn't help feeling that Rose was pigeon holed as The Love Interest, she was quite a contrast from the Rose we saw in Turn Left and it... I didn't like it. Where was the proactive girl who built a TIME machine? Who ordered UNIT? I just... I can only hope the next episode will have her doing better.

As for the Abomination thing... there must be a fallout there, c'mon Rose destroyed a fleet of Daleks, Davros should at least be a little bit interested in her or Rose does something.

if by disappointed you mean heartsick and furious

[mls03j]

But I couldn’t help feeling that Rose was pigeonholed as The Love Interest.

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head, there. The irony is, turning Rose into the Doctor’s girlfriend ruined the Doctor/Rose reunion, at least for me. When the Doctor turned around and saw Rose, I wasn’t thinking, “Finally!” I was thinking, “That’s it?” I couldn’t help wondering if that’s all RTD thought Rose was good for. It’s hard to believe this is the same man who wrote “The Parting of the Ways” and “Turn Left.” (Still, he did write those episodes. So there’s always a chance that “Journey’s End” will be fantastic.)

As for the Abomination thing… there must be a fallout there.

Well, I’m not holding my breath. But I’m not tearing my clothes and putting on sackcloth and ashes, either. All we can do is wait and see.

Re: if by disappointed you mean heartsick and furious

[grimorie]

I confess the running thing got me (I'm *so* easy) but over all I was so... very I loved almost everything about the episode but the thing of it was I was watching the Rose Tyler show. I wanted Rose to be more kick ass and proactive and... *shakes head* and y'know Ten regenerating didn't even bother me because I figured David Tennant was already locked in... if not well, okay then but it's Rose who I was concerned with.

Why did Russell just sideline her? After all the trouble she went through crossing the universes, after all the realities she crossed, after all she's done and she's just going to... sit there and wait?

It's really, incredibly frustrating for me and I knew, I *knew* people who hate Rose will take this radically against her.

Re: if by disappointed you mean heartsick and furious

[mls03j]

I loved almost everything about the episode but the thing of it was I was watching the Rose Tyler show.

Yeah, me too. It’s like 99 percent of this episode was written just for me. And none of that matters, because all I really care about is Rose.

Why did Russell just sideline her?

I wish I knew. And I’m trying so hard not to start crying again. I know there’s a chance that the Rose I fell in love with will be back on Saturday. But it’s hard to remember that when all I can hear is her saying, “Doctor, find me.” (What happened to “I want you safe”?)

It’s really, incredibly frustrating for me and I knew, I knew people who hate Rose will take this radically against her.

I wish I could say I didn’t care about that. But it just pours salt in an open wound. (Plus, it makes me twice as careful about the things I say.)

Re: if by disappointed you mean heartsick and furious

[grimorie]

But it’s hard to remember that when all I can hear is her saying, “Doctor, find me.” (What happened to “I want you safe”?)

Oh, man... yes that bit was... I cringed when that happened. I suppose RTD was trying to make a connection with the 'Help me' Rose whispered in the christmas episode. I think that's why I find s2 not as satisfying as S1 its because she wasn't as actively active as she was in S1 and... I don't know even after all this I'm still ambivalent about season 2. I expected a LOT from season 2, I expected fall out and consequences and other stuff. I guess I was watching a different show than the one RTD wrote.

After this episode I made a decision not to seek out other reviews because I know it'll only affect me a lot.

Re: if by disappointed you mean heartsick and furious

[mls03j]

I know what you mean. I can’t get my head around the OMG LOVE I’ve seen for this episode. (And I’ve heard at least one person say that they thought Rose was more in character here than she was in “Turn Left.” WTF?) But then, I feel the same way about season two. I’ll never understand why some people like it so much.

Re: if by disappointed you mean heartsick and furious

[grimorie]

Out of all the seasons I thought season 2 was the most uneven and suffered from Russell dividing his time between Torchwood. And the Torchwood arc wasn't an arc.

Someone mentioned that the Rose in Turn Left was the Rose she expected to see in season 2 and y'know what? It hit me that, yes, I was expecting the same thing. I expected a huge amount of fallout from Rose's actions in PoTW.

Evil or not Rose decimated a fleet of Daleks! She had the Vortex running in her head and for a few seconds she was tempted to keep that power. Anyone would be tempted. And I thought... how lovely was that? They were going to set-up something here

Re: if by disappointed you mean heartsick and furious

[mls03j]

Y’know, after “Turn Left,” I thought I finally understood what was wrong with Rose in season two. She didn’t remember what happened on the Game Station, so she probably thought that all she’d done was nearly get herself killed, and that the Doctor’d had to regenerate to save her life.

It would explain why she’s herself again in “Turn Left.” She finally remembers who she is. But it doesn’t explain “The Stolen Earth.” (And I think you hit the nail on the head again, calling it a regression.) So I just don’t know anymore.

But a whole season of the Rose we saw in “Turn Left”? A whole season spent building on the foundation laid in season one? That’s crazy talk!

*sigh* I did want Rose to come back, but that’s mostly because I figured I had nothing to lose. Odds are, the story I fell in love with ended in “The Parting of the Ways.” But there’s always a chance that the finale will be so spectacular that I’ll end up liking the entire series.