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Oct 07, 2008 20:06

Can't really watch! I have the MSNBC feed up and I watch when Obama's on and turn the sound off and click away when McCain is on, which means I'm going to miss all the LULZ doesn't it. I am watching the chat in obama_2008 instead.

At least I have avoided freaking out and shoving handfuls of potato chips in my face so far.

*NERVOUS*

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mlleelizabeth October 8 2008, 01:23:22 UTC
Okay, I am going to try to at least listen. I'm sorry I missed that. From the chat I'm watching, I think he said something about Warren Buffett which ... um, afaik Buffett DOES NOT support McCain, so that was pretty lulzy, too. I'm hoping and praying for a Stockdale moment but OMG what if McCain suddenly starts being intelligent and sympathetic! Ack!

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ruggerdavey October 8 2008, 01:24:58 UTC
He did note that Buffet supports Obama ("I am a maverick! Yes I am! MAverick maverick maverick!")

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mlleelizabeth October 8 2008, 01:26:31 UTC
That's what I thought. LOL Way to bring up positives for the other guy, McCain!

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mlleelizabeth October 8 2008, 01:43:29 UTC
Yes, and freeze all spending?! I guess so he can pass on my middle class taxes to his rich buddies. From what I'm reading the undecideds watching CNN are hating McCain every time he talks, at least so far.

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mlleelizabeth October 8 2008, 02:03:01 UTC
Actually, I'm not even catching half of what he says. He has such a droney voice that I kind of zone out when he's talking. But the few times I've really tried to focus, I can't make any sense out of it anyway. I guess he plans to not have to pay for anything at all because of his spending freeze and everyone in the government will just twiddle their thumbs and voluntarily give up their paychecks and the taxes he raises for the middle class and lower class people will pay for the rich people's welfareWall Street bailout.

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mlleelizabeth October 8 2008, 02:25:28 UTC
I love your icon! There's been plenty of stupid to tune into.

I didn't dare play a drinking game with these debates. I'd be worthless for work in the morning.

I just realize that McCain reminds me of Richard Nixon more than anyone else. I'm kind of gagging over that realization.

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mlleelizabeth October 8 2008, 03:11:43 UTC
That Jessica icon is awesome! Is it shareable with credit?

My liver is terrified of our healthcare system and my health insurance in general. It is crap. And our jerk of a fundie insurance salesman was in our office last week whining to our office manager about how Obama might win and then we'd be stuck with nationalized healthcare. It was all I could do to keep from getting up and walking across the hall and punching him!

And yeah, I'm going to have Nixon/McCain nightmares now from that realization, but they really do sound alike to me. Ugh! It was the "my friends" thing. It reminds me of "my fellow Americans."

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mlleelizabeth October 8 2008, 03:26:04 UTC
Awwww! Thank you! I promise to take good care of it and raise it in an Obama-voting home!

LOL I love watching the really screwed up parts of the healthcare industry freak out because they've basically been caught stealing the goodies and are shamefully trying to pretend they haven't. I actualy loved the question about health care being a commodity, because I think it's reprehensible that people (insurance salesmen, some doctors, big Pharma, etc.) profit off the health misery of their neighbors. If I were queen of the universe selling health insurance would be a felony.

Yep, the rhetoric is efinitely part of it too. I should call my dad tomorrow and see if he notices the resemblance. He hated Nixon -- used to make up new mean lyrics to Hail to the Chief about him. *eg*

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ruggerdavey October 8 2008, 03:34:06 UTC
They totally do. I had a feminist bioethics class in college, and the prof told the story of how she went from being a scientist to a bioethics philosopher via an incident that happened at the lab where she worked. The scientists came up with the cure for this really awful chronic illness (legally she couldn't tell us which one), but since pharma would make more money from continuing to produce the medicine for chronic treatment they decided not to market the cure. In essence, pharma decided to allow people to continue suffering because the company would profit more off of people's misery than off of curing them of a horrible illness. What is wrong with people in this country - in this world - if that is even an option in anyone's mind?

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mlleelizabeth October 8 2008, 03:43:59 UTC
OMG that is awful, but so unsurprising! I just ... Ack! So there is some horrible illness out there that people could be cured of, and instead so some disgusting CEO can buy a new yacht, people have to suffer in pain and possibly go bankrupt trying to pay for something that just treats it. I think I am going to have to go throw pillows at the wall now!

I came to the conclusion that health insurance is evil and immoral and should be illegal when I was in college, paying medical claims for a living. There's just so much wrongness to it!

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