Let's Talk January: Mithen's Personal History of Superman and Batman!
I got an anonymous request for either Clark or Bruce's (or Dick's, but that's so tied to Bruce's) story as I see it from start to present--that is to say, what do I pick and choose from different continuities and canons to make my Superman or Batman? This is a hard and interesting question! The simple cheating answer is that I change it depending
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Krypto! Does your Platonic Ideal Bruce have Ace too?
I imagine him and Superman starting their lives as heroes at almost exactly the same time, unknown to each other. Batman might have started slightly sooner (I mean only by months) because he's more able to operate without anyone noticing.
Oh, and as for their reveal to each other, my irrevocable headcanon is that they find out while being forced to share a room on a cruise ship--as per either the classic Golden Age story, or the wonderfully insane version in the Superman/Batman Annual #1 (find it! read it!).
Yes, this, THIS! (Most especially the bit about the cruise! :D)
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Ahhh! He's not as key as Krypto (because Bruce isn't as isolated as Clark often is)--but he definitely should be there!
The cruise, I love it so much! Yes, they find out about each others' identities while sharing a bed. *nods*
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YES!
I snag from Mark Waid's wonderful Birthright the idea that instead of going to college, Clark travels the world and does freelance journalism, which catches the eye of Perry White. Clark learns a great deal about humanity and his powers as he travels and thinks about how to put them to practical use.
I like the idea about Clark traveling the world. I don’t mind Clark goint to college as well, though. What I didn’t like - Clark going for his training to the Fortress for about 10 years or so (as I saw in the first Superman movie). I really hated that idea.
If there's going to be canon het, I prefer the pre-reboot version where he's married to Lois!
Absolutely! :)
Oh, and as for their reveal to each other, my irrevocable headcanon is that they find out while being forced to share a room on a cruise ship--as per either the classic Golden Age story, or the ( ... )
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Yeah! I don't think cutting him off from the whole world for a decade is a really good idea... *frowns at movie*
I ought to re-read that Annual, it always makes me happy. *grin*
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I love Silver Age Kypton and for me too it's part of my ideal Superman "canon". And Birthright is so amazing and full of wonderful ideas for the Superman origin story. I come back to it quite often.
If he has a het relationship it absolutely should be Lois and they should get married. I miss that marriage so bad.
The murder in the alley should always be something random, cruel and pointless--not part of any larger conspiracy or the result of something Thomas or Martha had done earlier, the point is that horrible things can happen that you didn't call on yourself and that don't serve any larger picture.I agree so hard about this! Sometimes tying these things into greater stories and conspiracy (as happened with all the Robin's origins stories too) actually takes away from the tragedy. Sometime tragedy works better because it's just a random, unconnected and thus ( ... )
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I tried to tell myself it might be a good thing that it was gone because it made my OTP more possible, but...the fact of the matter is that marriages have never stopped me, I just set everything in an "identical but no wife" world and go on my merry way (cf: Sherlock). Losing the marriage to Lois ended up fundamentally changing the way the character was written in canon, though, and THAT actually does interfere with my shippy times!
I absolutely cannot believe how often people want to make the Waynes' deaths part of "something bigger." It's a ludicrous impulse and undermines exactly what Batman stands for. *annoyed sigh*
Also, yeah, "continuity" needs to be put in a wood chipper and ditched. The idea that we can piece all of this together into one nice consistent story is one of the biggest problems with modern comics (you mentioned this problem crops up in Doctor Who as well!)
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And it really didn't do him and any of his supporting cast any favours. I still think that something like the New52 could have been exciting and interesting with better planning and with changes mindful of who these characters are at the core.
(you mentioned this problem crops up in Doctor Who as well!)It does happen in Doctor Who sometimes, but it has only become really annoying with Moffat recently with the way he's wrapping up the seasons he's been writing so far. It started out much like the seasons that were made by his predecessor with nods to Classic Who serials here and there that were fun and engaging and then went overboard with it and in the process contradiction or fundamentally changing the things that were established in the first four season of the Doctor Who reboot. It stopped being clever and charming and became annoying then - and a bit stale I think ( ... )
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