More commentray on the commentary - Kripke on WIAWSNB
Firstly a self-indulgent squee at having the
Blue Velvet ref in the episode confirmed as deliberate. I love the visual referencing of other movies and …oops thats a whole other meta
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I think also that he does have an inherent nobility, that has nothing to do with Sam or his father. He obviously wants to help people, and obviously does want to do the right thing simply because it is the right thing. He speaks kindly enough to most people and seems to want people to think well of him in general. (His apologizing to Tiny in FPB was really indicative of that to me.) I think that even when you take away his hunting and all that goes along with it, he does have a lot of very nice traits that make him a good human being.
I think that "loser" is really kind of a hard thing to define, too. Being jobless and homeless when you obviously crave structure has got to do things to a person, but take the hunting out of that equation and you've got an interesting deal, which I think then comes down to, well, situation. Dean is obviously somewhat aimless without someone else's worldview thrust upon him (in a manner) and yeah, I can see the "bar brawler, drifter" thing most definitely. But I don't know that I'd call him a loser per se.
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And yes, I cringe at 'loser' - maybe 'lost' is a better term, for him without hunting.
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Lost is a good term, I think, yeah.
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