What is needed: a signature. How to get there? massive non-violent non-cooperative demonstrations

Jan 09, 2019 06:24

So, last night Trump gave a speech adamently refusing to sign a bill to open the gov't. He wants a huge ineffective wall across the southern borders of the US; he talks of a humanitarian crises he causes and his solution is more detention camps.  He ignored the people who are now being required to work for no money and the people who have been ( Read more... )

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Yellow jackets misssylviadrake January 9 2019, 17:13:55 UTC
A witty remark I've heard to the on-going crisis movement into dictatorship: "A yellow jacket is in the post, with a build-your-own guillotine manual."

I did not know that most French cars come equipped with yellow vests as safety jackets. Too bad American cars do not have these. I'd walk about with mine.
I also learned that these demonstrations were many, diverse and by and large succeeded in stopping Macron's right-wing attack on them. This has not been reported in the US press because so many citizens cannot be presented as terrorists.

Lisa Guidarini I was reading about the successes of the demonstrations in the NY Times. I'm wondering, are the French able to effect change partly because their country is much smaller? Seems to me it's easier to take back a smaller country. I wonder if the U.S. is just too enormous to save, plus too filled with ignorant and armed Trump supporters.

Me: The US is more thoroughly a fascist state: the French have no equivalent king; the PM emerges from its parliament; there is no history of violence taken into your hands and approved (no history of slavery and intense race discrimination); religion is kept out of the public sphere; guns are not everywhere. It is acceptable in the US truly to attack a group of demonstrators and since Trump imprison them. The French still have a number of civil rights we have ceded.

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