So I feel VERY out of place here adding myself to the discussion... but I want to haha. I read your post and the majority of the comments (okay all of them but I was skimming sort of
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You also mentioned the idea that it's harder to know the "goal" of a platonic relationship fic. I think to some degree that's true on TV shows too. Without a first kiss... or "getting back together"... or marriage... or babies as a goal, people aren't sure what the point of their story should be lol. Better writers realize that writing the same old thing gets boring anyway and even their romantic fics probably have more unique goals. But since for a platonic fic the goal is always gonna be more unique, it's more daunting for every single writer
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I was also thinking about mixed gendered friendships as well - like with The OC, for example, you get plenty of Summer and Marissa and Ryan and Seth, but rarely do you see Summer+Ryan or Marissa+Seth, and with this re-watch I'm doing at the moment, it's rather sad because boys and girls CAN be friends without any romantic connotation, but lol TV doesn't give us that.
I think the problem with having romance in the background is that writers aren't necessarily keeping them in the background, if that makes sense. So many of my Glee friendship fics include the fact that Blaine is in a relationship with Kurt and loves him because that's canon. But there's something more beyond the fact that Blaine is dating Kurt. It's about Blaine's relationship with this other person and it's about having something that doesn't involve his romantic relationship, which is really fucking hard to find when it comes to Blaine fics because of the way he was written into the show.
Yeah shows way too rarely give us platonic male/female friendships, especially where both are heterosexual, and there is no hint of romance. The O.C. was guilty of that and some shows are better than others but really Gilmore Girls was just as bad - Lane ended up very romantically involved with two of her 4 opposite sex band-mates as opposed to successfully just having a platonic bond with them and she didn't seem at all close to Brian or Gil... Rory and Lorelai were not close (platonic) friends with any guys except Rory/Marty and maybe Lorelai/Michel but Marty was completely in love with her and Michel... they weren't that close AND he was gay. None of the characters seemed to have close friendships like that with an opposite sex friend, from what I can remember. To some degree it is realistic, from an early age girls are socially conditioned into only hanging out with other girls and boys with boys and there is the complicated nature of when there is a potential for romance one or both people might fall for the other, but... it also
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Oh yeah Lane did get romantically involved with half her bandmates sigh.
The only instance I think of in Gilmore Girls that was boy+girl without any romance is Paris+Jess for about five seconds :C One day I'll write that friendship fic. But yeah GG was pretty awful with that, probably one of the worst since everyone had to fall in love with Rory.
That's definitely a reason - and it's even worse with the newbies on Glee because they're really not individuals like the original batch of kids.
I think Luke & Sookie had some nice moments too haha, Sookie totally supported Luke/Lorelai and they were both chefs.
I did fall hard for Marley out of the newbies though. I think it might be partially because Melissa Benoist's beauty has me captivated though. :P I'm not sure.
If you ever need someone to talk to, I'm here for you, by the way. I thought I was possibly asexual for a while given my lack of interest in having a relationship for a really long time (at least in relation to my peers), so I understand a little bit about it.
That's really interesting about fanvidding though - most music other there is romantic, so it has to be difficult making platonic videos with that kind of ~romantic music accompanying it. I know when I listen to songs I immediately think of my personal ships and very rarely do I consider the friendships i like.
like it's weird to write for a character that you've never read any fics about before. It's harder to know whether you're in-character or not because you don't have these other written fanworks to compare to it or something.I was thinking about this for a while and I totally understand what you mean - I know I've tended to read fics in the fandom before jumping in, although with Glee I couldn't find what I wanted to write and just decided to write it anyway. And for me
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And yeah I understand that with Harry Potter. There's too much out there and you just find what you like and don't even consider the rest because seriously that fandom has 50 million characters. :P And it's basically true for Glee too. ;)
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I think the problem with having romance in the background is that writers aren't necessarily keeping them in the background, if that makes sense. So many of my Glee friendship fics include the fact that Blaine is in a relationship with Kurt and loves him because that's canon. But there's something more beyond the fact that Blaine is dating Kurt. It's about Blaine's relationship with this other person and it's about having something that doesn't involve his romantic relationship, which is really fucking hard to find when it comes to Blaine fics because of the way he was written into the show.
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The only instance I think of in Gilmore Girls that was boy+girl without any romance is Paris+Jess for about five seconds :C One day I'll write that friendship fic. But yeah GG was pretty awful with that, probably one of the worst since everyone had to fall in love with Rory.
That's definitely a reason - and it's even worse with the newbies on Glee because they're really not individuals like the original batch of kids.
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I did fall hard for Marley out of the newbies though. I think it might be partially because Melissa Benoist's beauty has me captivated though. :P I'm not sure.
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That's really interesting about fanvidding though - most music other there is romantic, so it has to be difficult making platonic videos with that kind of ~romantic music accompanying it. I know when I listen to songs I immediately think of my personal ships and very rarely do I consider the friendships i like.
like it's weird to write for a character that you've never read any fics about before. It's harder to know whether you're in-character or not because you don't have these other written fanworks to compare to it or something.I was thinking about this for a while and I totally understand what you mean - I know I've tended to read fics in the fandom before jumping in, although with Glee I couldn't find what I wanted to write and just decided to write it anyway. And for me ( ... )
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