I've found the reason for the evilness in this world!

Feb 14, 2007 01:35

So it might be more like “one of the many reasons” (although I think it is an important one) and it might not play into all kinds of evilness (I'd leave out flip-flops and Martha Steward ( Read more... )

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missapocalyptic February 22 2007, 16:16:29 UTC
So, in effect, we are living out a pattern that has been designed for us in advance? Like a computer program? Or is it a random thing that we have no control over?

"designed" sounds too much like there's a purpose behind it. No, for me it's more like the latter thing. We have no control over it, but because this whole action/reaction is so big and complicated and fucking huge, no one will be able to compute the pattern. So, practically it's as if the pattern didn't even exist.

Thing is, I think that thoughts can be traced to a physical beginning. I have no idea how this should work, but the concequences of going the other way (that thoughts are some kind of non-physical... things) sound a lot freakier to me. And if thoughts do have a physical beginning, then they have to obey the laws of physics.

I think that's the crux of the matter. If we say that free will (like thoughts) is a spirit-thing, then I'd agree with everything you said. I just try to avoid going there as long as I can explain it to myself in a different way.

And, yes, the point is to believe in it. If you tell someone that he doesn't act on his own volition, then this will influence his behaviour (and most probably not in a good way). But as long as he doesn't know, it doesn't matter whether he has a free will or not. because for him it's real.
It's like with Oedipus: had the oracle not prophecied Laios that his son would kill him and marry his own mother, then Laios would never have exposed Oedipus, Oedipus would have known about his father and mother and the whole tragedy would never have happened.

Am I making sense? Sort of, at least?

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