In the comments to the "would slashers support het couples"-post I often read that het-couples were not as interesting, because their relationship was often canon
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See, I'm more a het-shipper than a slash-shipper, but I don't know that it matters in this context.
I really, really DON'T like it when they make a ship canon. Slash or het, I really don't think it matters.
Because, really, where do you go from there? I did read one comment from a fan who enjoyed relationship fic and stuff. I don't. And really, I think a lot of people *think* they want it, but soon tire of it. And that's without even touching on the fact that, for the most part TPTB don't resolve these things to the satisfaction of the fans of the pairing anyway.
I prefer all the characters in my fandom to be emotionally available. Sure, I have my pet pairings, but I also enjoy seeing the established characters have chemistry with guest stars. Because really, how else are we supposed to get a glimpse of how they are when attracted, turned-on, whatever? I like guest characters to come in for an ep or two, stir our characters up, and then move on.
Hooking characters up, canonically, opens up all kinds of stuff that isn't all that fun to see (for me, anyway) relationship issues. Infidelity issues, on-going relationship issues. None of this is interesting to me or why I watch any particular program.
I know that a lot of fans really want to see all the characters in canon relationships, tied up with ribbons on them. That's one reason why I watch Sci-fi shows and not Desparate Housewives or whatever. I'm not looking for that kind of drama or even romance, per se.
Thanks. And, no, slash or het doesn't matter at all. It's just that basically everyone on my flist is a slasher, so I thought it was easier (for me) to just write about slash. But to talk about is good as well - maybe in that context even better, because there are way more canon-het couples out there to relate to...
Loved what you said about the guest stars. Sorry if I start babbling about a show you don't care about AT ALL, but I guess I can make a point that way. So there's this character who's in love buddies with his boyfriend. Both are single and OF COURSE that's a good thing. because it means that I can slash them at any point of the timeline. Yay. However, they did have some encounters with female guest characters - and I loved them (okay, all but one but that's a different story)! because I like them, and I think they're hot, and I want to see them getting sexy! getting sexy and flirty and worked up without a long-term relationship getting in the way of my fantasies. I might even write some het-porn about them, because they are not a threat to MY pairing. You get my point?
Oh yes, I think I get your point and I think we're in agreement here. I'm not even entirely sure what your fandom is, but again, I don't know that it matters to this issue all that much.
I can see how one of the OCs having chemistry with a female guest star might give slashers a headache. Understandably so. It sort of depends on what your feeling about the OC is. Is he a 'dyed in the wool' gay man or do he and his buddy have a special chemistry that just sort of transcends gender. I find I buy into the second premise easier (generally) than the first.
When I made my comment above, it really wasn't meant to be heterocentric. I've seen male guest stars have chemistry with male OCs, too, though it was probably unintentional. Doesn't matter, it was there for me.
In any case, I tend to find UST more fun than RST. Because of those knotty problems...
See, I'm more a het-shipper than a slash-shipper, but I don't know that it matters in this context.
I really, really DON'T like it when they make a ship canon. Slash or het, I really don't think it matters.
Because, really, where do you go from there? I did read one comment from a fan who enjoyed relationship fic and stuff. I don't. And really, I think a lot of people *think* they want it, but soon tire of it. And that's without even touching on the fact that, for the most part TPTB don't resolve these things to the satisfaction of the fans of the pairing anyway.
I prefer all the characters in my fandom to be emotionally available. Sure, I have my pet pairings, but I also enjoy seeing the established characters have chemistry with guest stars. Because really, how else are we supposed to get a glimpse of how they are when attracted, turned-on, whatever? I like guest characters to come in for an ep or two, stir our characters up, and then move on.
Hooking characters up, canonically, opens up all kinds of stuff that isn't all that fun to see (for me, anyway) relationship issues. Infidelity issues, on-going relationship issues. None of this is interesting to me or why I watch any particular program.
I know that a lot of fans really want to see all the characters in canon relationships, tied up with ribbons on them. That's one reason why I watch Sci-fi shows and not Desparate Housewives or whatever. I'm not looking for that kind of drama or even romance, per se.
I far, far prefer hints of UST here and there.
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Loved what you said about the guest stars. Sorry if I start babbling about a show you don't care about AT ALL, but I guess I can make a point that way. So there's this character who's in love buddies with his boyfriend. Both are single and OF COURSE that's a good thing. because it means that I can slash them at any point of the timeline. Yay. However, they did have some encounters with female guest characters - and I loved them (okay, all but one but that's a different story)! because I like them, and I think they're hot, and I want to see them getting sexy! getting sexy and flirty and worked up without a long-term relationship getting in the way of my fantasies. I might even write some het-porn about them, because they are not a threat to MY pairing. You get my point?
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I can see how one of the OCs having chemistry with a female guest star might give slashers a headache. Understandably so. It sort of depends on what your feeling about the OC is. Is he a 'dyed in the wool' gay man or do he and his buddy have a special chemistry that just sort of transcends gender. I find I buy into the second premise easier (generally) than the first.
When I made my comment above, it really wasn't meant to be heterocentric. I've seen male guest stars have chemistry with male OCs, too, though it was probably unintentional. Doesn't matter, it was there for me.
In any case, I tend to find UST more fun than RST. Because of those knotty problems...
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