Haha, awesome! I've been wanting to babble to someone about this stuff. :) I was using the Hey0 mod before, but it was KO'ed by the recent update and Hey0 doesn't want to work on it anymore. Most of the Hey0 modders are converting to Bukkit, so having that makes a lot of plugins available. I'm not sure that any of these mods have versions for a vanilla server or simpleserver. Do I understand right, simpleserver is a wrapper around a server, and that server could be vanilla minecraft or bukkit or something else? What bukkit is doing is definitely iffy, I hope Notch/Mojang don't slap them down. It sounds like they (Mojang) are having meetings this week to discuss it.
mods I'm using: General - I use give, time, spawn, setspawn and teleport. WarpGate - I use the named portals to bookmark import locations. MyHome - just another way to bookmark a location fill - super simple for building things, I use this a lot.
There's a new iso out for mineos, I need to download and try it. I like the performance I'm getting out of the box, it's a nice ramdisk setup. But I didn't like the management scripts, and really really hated that it sets up http auth and ftp with no encryption. I ended up ripping that stuff out, locking down to ssh and minecraft only. Then I installed minecraft in /opt, and use filetool.sh to back up everything to disk.
If you do end up trying mineos, I'd like to hear about your experience! How old is your old machine? The one I'm using has a Pentium M 1.7ghz ( pre-core, lol retro ) with 2GB of mem, and with two people it's still doing super.
What *is* bukkit doing, that there is a controversy over it? I haven't seen anything, but I haven't delved too deep into the forums.
The old machine is a 1.5ghz athlon with 2 gig of ram, so similar machines it seems. I'll have to get a new ethernet card for it, but barring that, it would be interesting to see how it handles 5+ users.
I went through some of the files and I worry I have lied to you, I was trying to get hmod to work, and that is what was not jiving with my OS. I'll have to go back and check out bukkit to see if it has anything I can use.
Thanks for the WarpGate link! That's exactly the kind of thing I was hoping for! I may end up teaching myself to mod the game anyway, just to implement the tweaks to fit my style.
Ill play with MyHome and General a little later, but I lost a "repair" mod that I want to implement... I have to find it again >.>.
You are correct that simpleserver is a server wrapper. I can't verify that it works with anything besides vanilla, but without looking at the code I can't see any reason why there would be any difficulties using it along with other kinds of servers.
Hacking out the auth and ftp - was it using these for anything besides account verification?
I probably wont be using any build tools since I'm running SMP, but then again I am toying with the idea of having a portal to a "build" section of the server.
Bukkit's issue is that it distributes the code from minecraft_server.jar, which the Minecraft site says pretty clearly you're not allowed to do. Also, they did their first distribution under GPL, which is impossible because they don't own or even have the code to minecraft_server.jar, so they can't open-source it.
I wonder if your problem with hmod/hey0 was the the client update that killed it for everyone. ( academic now I suppose ...)
You're welcome! There was one called Stargate for hMod, and there may be more around as well.
Repair sounds interesting, what does that do?
It was using http to allow you to start and stop the server, and ftp to upload plugins. It also had a think that gave you a terminal inside a webpage, implemented in javascript. That at least encrypted the password so, ok, but I'd still rather use ssh.
What kinds of things are you guys doing in SMP? Or, I guess, wanting to do.
Wow! I thought I had sent a reply days ago, apparently the internet ate it.
Mostly SMP is more or less a "build neat things under the threat of monsters, and muck about underground finding stuff".
Repair, which I have located, is a tool repair mod which, unfortunately is only for single player. The idea is to use a piece of main material to repair a tool, as opposed to wearing it out and building an entirely new one. I will be on the lookout for a new one, and in the meantime I'll play with code until something interesting comes out.
Also, I've been moving the constructions on my current server over to a new world, for dyes and whatnot. Yay!
mods I'm using:
General - I use give, time, spawn, setspawn and teleport.
WarpGate - I use the named portals to bookmark import locations.
MyHome - just another way to bookmark a location
fill - super simple for building things, I use this a lot.
There's a new iso out for mineos, I need to download and try it. I like the performance I'm getting out of the box, it's a nice ramdisk setup. But I didn't like the management scripts, and really really hated that it sets up http auth and ftp with no encryption. I ended up ripping that stuff out, locking down to ssh and minecraft only. Then I installed minecraft in /opt, and use filetool.sh to back up everything to disk.
If you do end up trying mineos, I'd like to hear about your experience! How old is your old machine? The one I'm using has a Pentium M 1.7ghz ( pre-core, lol retro ) with 2GB of mem, and with two people it's still doing super.
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The old machine is a 1.5ghz athlon with 2 gig of ram, so similar machines it seems. I'll have to get a new ethernet card for it, but barring that, it would be interesting to see how it handles 5+ users.
I went through some of the files and I worry I have lied to you, I was trying to get hmod to work, and that is what was not jiving with my OS. I'll have to go back and check out bukkit to see if it has anything I can use.
Thanks for the WarpGate link! That's exactly the kind of thing I was hoping for! I may end up teaching myself to mod the game anyway, just to implement the tweaks to fit my style.
Ill play with MyHome and General a little later, but I lost a "repair" mod that I want to implement... I have to find it again >.>.
You are correct that simpleserver is a server wrapper. I can't verify that it works with anything besides vanilla, but without looking at the code I can't see any reason why there would be any difficulties using it along with other kinds of servers.
Hacking out the auth and ftp - was it using these for anything besides account verification?
I probably wont be using any build tools since I'm running SMP, but then again I am toying with the idea of having a portal to a "build" section of the server.
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I wonder if your problem with hmod/hey0 was the the client update that killed it for everyone. ( academic now I suppose ...)
You're welcome! There was one called Stargate for hMod, and there may be more around as well.
Repair sounds interesting, what does that do?
It was using http to allow you to start and stop the server, and ftp to upload plugins. It also had a think that gave you a terminal inside a webpage, implemented in javascript. That at least encrypted the password so, ok, but I'd still rather use ssh.
What kinds of things are you guys doing in SMP? Or, I guess, wanting to do.
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Mostly SMP is more or less a "build neat things under the threat of monsters, and muck about underground finding stuff".
Repair, which I have located, is a tool repair mod which, unfortunately is only for single player. The idea is to use a piece of main material to repair a tool, as opposed to wearing it out and building an entirely new one. I will be on the lookout for a new one, and in the meantime I'll play with code until something interesting comes out.
Also, I've been moving the constructions on my current server over to a new world, for dyes and whatnot. Yay!
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