Unpopular opinion? Probably.
The more I think about it, the less I see the Jack/Sam and Daniel/Vala relationships actually working out. And I’m not just saying this as a Jack/Daniel shipper. I just don’t think that they would be healthy long-term relationships
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Jack's chemistry with Sam is subtle, warm, awkward, shy. I can see either relationship working well (and simultaneously, heh) in the long-term if both parties make conscious efforts to learn, accommodate & grow.
See, I don’t feel the warmth from Jack/Sam. I just feel the awkwardness, and it’s hard for me to get past. It doesn’t feel, to me, like a ‘good’ awkwardness. It feels like “we’re just going to stand here being awkward because we’ve run out of things to say and - oh GOD are they still here?”
10 seasons of canon prove that these characters grow, not stagnate.
I never said that they DIDN’T grow. Not at all. I liked that they had arcs that gave them more depth. But at least in the case of Sam, I don’t think she changed ENOUGH.
Daniel's focused, but not antisocial; many people mistake the cynicism he shows in the later seasons for introversion, but it's really ( ... )
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Sam & Jack are much more comfortable around each other in the later seasons. Any awkwardness they display in their interaction always stems from military no-frat regs. Theirs is an angsty, bittersweet courtship, because they obviously have a 'thing' for each other, but don't want to ruin everything the other person's accomplished with a career-ending indiscretion. In that regard, Jack & Daniel have similar issues, given the DADT policies in place during the series timeline.
Jack & Daniel evolved a communication shorthand to circumvent discovery; their scene at the end of S9's Origin ("Wanna?" "Mm-hmm.") illustrates how well they understand each other; the wordless eye-language that Daniel & Vala use at the end of The Ark of Truth echoes that dynamic ( ... )
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I can see Jack & Daniel hooking up in any season, but having the most success in the long term post-Descension, and especially after DADT's repeal.
I'm most comfy with Daniel & Vala hooking up any time after AoT.
(LOL no one's discussing Sam/Janet or Sam/Vala.)
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I did read a retirement fic years and years ago which summed up their relationships beautifully and explored all those nuances that I think Milanthruil was bringing into question earlier about the ifs and hows of their relationship possibly working out. It was fumbling and awkward and shy as hell. I wish I knew where that fic was. *sigh*
Jack and Daniel would most definitely have to hook up post descension, their relationship in seasons 4 and 5 deteriorated to such a point and the things Daniel says to Oma in Meridian leads me to suspect possible depression. (which led a lot of writers to use the idea that Jack was treating Daniel like shit because he couldn't have him.) Personally I think it's a bit from both of them, Jack not wanting to show his feelings for any of his team members after Divide and Conquer and Daniel feeling lost after Sha're/Shifu.
Sam/Janet is all kinds of angsty and sad now, there was a fair bit of it around before Heroes.
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I love it when a couple goes through a "breakup" and then reunites, because it usually makes their relationship stronger by resolving a few ~issues. Jack/Daniel certainly have Issues.
Killing off Janet is just... meh. Even if you were writing what you thought was a series finale, why would her death make it better? I don't get it.
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And when Lost City was supposed to be the finale/end of series movie Jack was going to end up frozen in the ice anyway, which is pretty much death.
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Anyway, if they were hoping to make movies based on the TV series, why kill off a beloved character? No one hated Janet Fraiser. And Teryl certainly deserved to be in a Stargate movie.
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I meant that Daniel sometimes isn't socially aware. He occasionally gets ahead of himself and forgets that he's talking to people who may have differing opinions. And then they say things that may catch him off gaurd because he hadn't thought of it that way. And people who have been dead for centuries tend not to talk back. ;)
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PS: Thanks for having the courage to host an intriguing fandom topic, BTW. Most of the time, fans go anon on this subject, and it divides instead of unites us in further understanding each other.
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I don't know if it was courage so much as lack of sleep. lol I tend to wax a bit philosophical in the wee hours. The original post was totally formulated at like 7am this morning after having been awake since noon. (I probably could have waited a bit in posting to make sure that all my points were saying what I wanted them to. :P)
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