season six likely final season of community (but not really 100% confirmed)

May 04, 2015 20:06

On my morning commute, I picked up the local free newspaper and saw an article featuring Joel McHale ahead of some comedy shows he's doing out in western/central Canada and he seems to suggest that this is the final season of Community ( Read more... )

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liz_marcs May 5 2015, 02:18:09 UTC
The funny thing is that one of the Hollywood trade magazines is saying the opposite. Variety? Hollywood Reporter? One of them anyway was saying that Yahoo was in talks with Dan Harmon about doing more with Community, but it was all very vague and theoretical.

Edit: AHA! Found it! It was The Hollywood Reporter where I read it.

This Metro article reads to me as a very Alison Brie-like deflection. He doesn't know what's going on or what's going to happen, so he doesn't want to say anything until someone, somewhere gives him some solid information. As we all know with the "Alison isn't coming back for S6 Community" panic, it reads an awful lot like he's saying it's over when all he's saying is that he doesn't know anything.

That said, I went into S6 Community expecting it to be the last season anyway. Ken Jeong, Danny Pudi, Gillian Jacobs, and Paget Brewster all have new series waiting for them. Jim Rash, Joel McHale, and Alison Brie all have production deals. Keith David is one of those actors who is always working. Even if they could schedule things to get most of the actors back, odds are they're going to still lose someone. While Paget and Keith won't be a big loss (IMHO) since they're one-season characters, I think we're more likely to lose one of the actors who already has a series in the hopper.

Yeah, I guess I never agreed with the theory that Alison was the one most likely to jump ship, since it seems her issue was more about getting a firm schedule so she could work around or with it. It's the thing she's most alluded to in interviews.

Would I be surprised if S6 Community turned out to be the last season? No.

Would I be surprised if Dan decided to untether completely from the "series" idea and decided to do a series of mini-sodes that take place in the Community-verse but may or may not involve familiar characters? Considering that Yahoo is making vague noises about working something out with Dan Harmon, I've got to say no on this one, too.

Hell, I wouldn't even be surprised if "S7 Community" turns out to be a spin-off.

As for me, I've been having some mixed feelings about the S6 episodes overall. There's some good stuff there, but I feel like the heart that marked the previous seasons has mostly disappeared. It started off pretty strong, but I'm getting that same sense that the writers are flailing that I got during the middle episodes of S5.

Overall, I'm not sure how I feel about it, to be honest.

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wingman19 May 5 2015, 05:32:51 UTC
Yeah , I've been thinking the same way. Going in to this season,I figured it was it's last. NBC really screwed them over. Everyone moved on and they got picked up too late. This season is funny but the writers are dropping the ball. Other then Last week with Jeff being afraid of losing everyone.(especially Annie) The show doesn't have a last season feel to it. I like the whole Jeff/Annie thing like everyone else, but I highly doubt we will get a resolution.

The story has been pushing a Jeff / Annie relationship the whole series, even when it wasn't trying too. Unless something huge happens in the last two episodes it wouldn't be addressed. Because movie talk means nothing. (Friends movie) It's not a guarantee but I belief that Dan wrote this season that way to either get one more season or a movie. However if you lose Alison , Danny , Joel , Jim, and maybe Gillian; The show wouldn't be able to move on . ( I love Chang but you could lose him and still continue.)My main fear is that this show is going to end like alot of my favorites and end without a true ending. (Angel) Angel 's ending still pisses me off to this day. lol

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briefan1972 May 5 2015, 15:31:20 UTC
I think I'm on the same page as you on a lot of things. First off the interview with Joel does read a LOT as an Alison-like deflection. He doesn't really know what's going on, but it can kinda seem like he's saying things are over. Even though he's not. Second, that one sentence wherein Kathy Savitt mentions discussions with Harmon? It literally tells us nothing. That could be anything, or nothing. It could go anywhere, or nowhere. Classic no-info informational statement.

We've talked about this before but I also pretty much expected this to be the final season. With all of the cast commitments to other projects (and perhaps simply a desire to move on, on the parts of a couple) it seems like it's going to be increasingly difficult to get a S7 done. Impossible? Of course not, but certainly unlikely. But then, look what show I'm talking about. Community probably shouldn't have made it through its second season, much less be staring at a theoretical seventh. So who knows....?

I've been wondering about the different forms a future Community could take and it's true that there are some intriguing options, albeit I'm not certain how realistic any one is over another. You could do British-short seasons to the tune of six episodes. You could go full-on web series and just have little ten minute webisodes. You could go the Sherlock route and air three ninety minute eps, although that might require a complete structural reworking of the series and I'm not sure sitcoms are especially well suited to that format. You can spin off, ala NBC's Joey. Or just continue marching on but with mostly different characters, ala ABC's Scrubs S9. You could even switch to animation and just need the actors to lend their voices.

I've also never really been onboard with the fan theory that Alison is the most likely to leave. And it's an ongoing thing; if you follow the IMDB and reddit boards, almost everyone seems to think there's no chance she'll return for another season and yet, I think she might be among the most likely to return, based on all the TV show commitments other cast members have.

Like you, I have really mixed feelings about this season. On one hand, I'm happy Community got an extension, a chance to fulfill the fabled hashtag. But, it's been a really uneven season, in my view and I also get that feeling that the writers are flailing a bit, kinda scraping for ideas. The creativity of previous seasons seems to be missing along with much of that famous Community heart. And quite frankly, most of the humour. Like I've stated, I still basically enjoy the show even if I'm not laughing as often as I used to. I have such an almost intrinsic love for these characters that I'll pretty much watch them do anything. But perhaps that's part of the (perceived) problem; by continuing to watch something that has become a shadow of its former self, maybe I'm enabling Dan and the writers to continue with what I consider to be largely lazy writing. We are all enablers. We demanded that the show come back so loudly, we didn't take time to think what show might be coming back.

Quick edit - I just read the review on itsjustaboutwrite.com and Deb, the reviewer, hit upon the perfect terminology to describe my feelings on this season: treading water. There it is.

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liz_marcs May 5 2015, 21:54:26 UTC
Community lasted beyond two seasons almost entirely by the grace of Jay Leno...

No, I'm being serious. Remember that clusterf*ck back in 2009 when Jay Leno left The Tonight Show to start his own hour-long variety/interview show at 10 p.m.? You should since it resulted in that whole mess with Conan taking over, only to have him fired when Jay Leno's show tanked resulting in the local stations threatening to riot. NBC reinstalled Jay Leno at The Tonight Show, and Conan and his people were out of a job.

To make room for a daily hour-long Jay Leno show at 10 p.m., NBC basically cancelled everything, including (*sob*) My Name Is Earl (*sob*) and abandoned hour-long dramas in the 10 p.m. slot. Community premiered in 2009 as part of NBC's decision to build its evenings around Jay Leno.

The problem is, when Leno tanked, NBC had nothing to fill the dead air space with. That's a big part of the reason why Community got a a three-episode extension (it was originally a 22-episode season, not a 25, episode season) and early renewal.

The problem is, NBC is only just now recovering from the 2009 bloodbath. The reason why Community kept getting renewed for as long as it did was because NBC literally had nothing to replace it with during seasons two and three because their pilot pipeline was mostly dry. The reason why it got renewed for a fourth and fifth season was because everything they put in that 8 p.m. slot opposite TBBT failed badly.

(Television history is fun!)

In any case, the fact that we even got to six seasons is due in large part to NBC's screw-up and Jay Leno flopping at 10 p.m. For sure, it was the reason why we got five seasons on NBC. Without those five seasons, Yahoo wouldn't have picked it up.

(Although it turns out that it really was almost Hulu that picked up the show, but the budget would've been a lot smaller.)

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briefan1972 May 6 2015, 13:36:35 UTC
That's interesting to think about that. I remember that Leno moving to 10pm was a HUGE deal in '09. Magazine cover stories, all over the Internet. And many industry experts were, at the time, saying that it would almost certainly either be a gigantic hit OR one of the biggest flops in TV history. Not many people thought there would be a middle ground with that experiment. And whadya know? There wasn't. It flopped big time.

You would have thought that NBC would've had a deep bench to go to, but instead they had virtually no backup and the whole situation set them back years. You're right, they are just NOW recovering from that mess. It's often been said that probably at any other network, Community would've been shitcanned by the end of its second season, maybe even before the first season ended. And that's likely true. NBC's incompetence at proper programming and developing absolutely anything at all on the sitcom side that would stick, directly led to longer lifespans for not only Community, but it's likely that also P&R and 30 Rock got extra time that they might not have otherwise been given. And ironically, those evenings when NBC had those three plus The Office programmed has to stand as one of the best, most quality driven nights of comedy in the history of television.

It's almost as if the fate of Community was hanging on the flip of a coin all those years......or the roll of a die.

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