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Aug 13, 2006 17:06

My job's gotten a little more hectic since I got back from Vegas, which kind of throws off my plans. Nevertheless, I'm too masochistic to stop myself from reviewing this book, so no worries there. It'll just take me till Christmas to finish ( Read more... )

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seductivedark August 14 2006, 01:41:11 UTC
That's what I'm getting at. jim_smith was giving me this cockamamie theory that because the books are written in Harry's P.O.V., and written for kids Harry's age, that these kinds of maturity issues aren't gonna be brought up, because it's not foremost on the minds of the tweenager set. Well, that only makes sense if the author were thirteen years old as well.

I do think this will be addressed in book 7. If I recall it right, JKR said she didn't realize how many loose ends she's got to tie up. One of the recent interviews she's been doing. I'm too lazy to look up the link.

but since his main priority is himself...

I think most thirteen year olds in similar situations would have the same priority. But it does tend to get annoying when fans think that, since Harry thinks it and isn't corrected, this is what the author is going for.

If Rowling's goal with all of this is to portray Harry as a devil-may-care anti-hero who shoots from the hip, well, Harry sucks at that too.For all the reasons you mentioned, plus interviews and the ( ... )

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merenwen_81 August 14 2006, 08:33:53 UTC
I have heard that OotP are the bad guys theory before and I'd just like to know if you think the Death Eaters are supposed to be good or are there just two sets of bad guys. I have trouble with having the goodies be people who destroy bridges and torture people.

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lisatrix August 14 2006, 13:55:34 UTC
I don't think it's that the DE are supposed to be good, just that the 'good guys' aren't that good either.

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seductivedark August 14 2006, 17:13:53 UTC
The thing is, other than the Quidditch World Cup scene, I don't recall seeing or hearing of any Death Eater torment of Muggles that isn't also done to WW folk as well. And, as has been mentioned, we almost always see things from the narrator sitting on Harry's shoulder and listening to his thoughts at his ear. He only knows so much ( ... )

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merenwen_81 August 14 2006, 21:27:37 UTC
I see your point and agree with it. The Order are not perfect, but they are more fitting for the Good Guy role if the needs to be one. The Ministry is too corrupted and it doesn't seem like you can just vote for a different Minister in the next election if the current one sucks. Dumbledore had his puppetmaster tendencies, but from the information we have so far, he seemed to be the least of these evils.

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jim_smith August 14 2006, 23:25:32 UTC
So, if the Death Eaters aren't the good guys and Harry's not the good guy, who is?

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seductivedark August 14 2006, 23:36:59 UTC
See, that's the problem. The DEs are shown to be pretty bad, even without Harry there. The Order seems to be the best bet, with the Ministry bogged down in the usual bureaucratic red tape and cozy little niches for its drones. But the Order isn't quite the French Underground with the Ministry as the Vichy (puppet) Gov't, they're outside of the direct command of the legitimate WW government.

It's just this odd feeling I get sometimes, when the Good Guys start behaving like Bad Guys would if someone else, say Marietta, was telling the story. This will probably not pan out.

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