Waterboarding and torture in general
Water torture
Breaks down the person psychologically and physiologically. Person will tell you anything. Effective at getting information? Yes. Yet, the better question, is it effective at getting useful and truthful information. Often the answer is No. The person will do anything to get it to stop. Including telling half truths or plain lies to end the torture.
What about the ticking time bomb argument, what if we want to torture to stop an immiment threat to our people, due to a bomb that we believe has information on that bomb.
The key words their being, we believe.
Many past dictators used this same arguement. Argentenia used the same excuse during the Dirty War.
Allowing a loophole allows for the exploitation of that loophole, it allows legitimacy of inhumanity.
What will we say when they use the same methods on our citizens or soldiers as they are overseas?
WHEN THE PAST COMES BACK TO HAUNT YOU, SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT REGARDING OUR TORTURE AT: ABU GHIRAIB PRISON, SECRET EURO PRISONS, GITMO, AND THE CURRENT CONTINUED USE OF WATER TORTURE.
At the Museum of American War Atrocities http://www.stompers.com/vietnam/nam2.html
The final stop on the "Wrong Wars of the Past Tour" was at the Museum of American War Atrocities. An excellent example of how a government can program its own propaganda, the U.S. included. The museum was a chilling account of all the horrors American G.I.'s bestowed upon the Vietnamese people, including photos and stories of the Mai Li Massacre, ruthless American mercenaries, chemical warfare damage such as deformed fetuses in jars, weapons and bombs used, and torture techniques performed. There were photos and paintings of the brave Viet Cong fighting their aggressors, and a black marble wall listing names of fallen V.C. soldiers. It all reminded me of my Hiroshima experience --depressing, interesting, and yet strangely enlightening. As advanced as our civilization likes to think it is, the reptilian part of our collective consciousness continues to drag us to new human lows. Will we ever learn?
Breaks down the person psychologically and physiologically. Person will tell you anything. Effective at getting information? Yes. Yet, the better question, is it effective at getting useful and truthful information. Often the answer is No. The person will do anything to get it to stop. Including telling half truths or plain lies to end the torture.
What about the ticking time bomb argument, what if we want to torture to stop an immiment threat to our people, due to a bomb that we believe has information on that bomb.
The key words their being, we believe.
Many past dictators used this same arguement. Argentenia used the same excuse during the Dirty War.
Allowing a loophole allows for the exploitation of that loophole, it allows legitimacy of inhumanity.
What will we say when they use the same methods on our citizens or soldiers as they are overseas?
WHEN THE PAST COMES BACK TO HAUNT YOU, SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT REGARDING OUR TORTURE AT: ABU GHIRAIB PRISON, SECRET EURO PRISONS, GITMO, AND THE CURRENT CONTINUED USE OF WATER TORTURE.
At the Museum of American War Atrocities http://www.stompers.com/vietnam/nam2.html
The final stop on the "Wrong Wars of the Past Tour" was at the Museum of American War Atrocities. An excellent example of how a government can program its own propaganda, the U.S. included. The museum was a chilling account of all the horrors American G.I.'s bestowed upon the Vietnamese people, including photos and stories of the Mai Li Massacre, ruthless American mercenaries, chemical warfare damage such as deformed fetuses in jars, weapons and bombs used, and torture techniques performed. There were photos and paintings of the brave Viet Cong fighting their aggressors, and a black marble wall listing names of fallen V.C. soldiers. It all reminded me of my Hiroshima experience --depressing, interesting, and yet strangely enlightening. As advanced as our civilization likes to think it is, the reptilian part of our collective consciousness continues to drag us to new human lows. Will we ever learn?