Pairing Meta: The Appeal of Snake/Otacon from a Male Perspective

Sep 11, 2008 10:06

Whilst I am still working on my second story (thanks to Khronos_Keeper and Imre_Nico for agreeing to be my beta-buddies), I decided to do something I promised to do for a long time: an essay about Snake/Otacon slash from a male perspective. I managed to write this pretty quickly, so if you need clarification/elaboration/etc, feel free to ask.

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2008, outer heaven!!!, wank, my pre-boss-battle speech, snake/otacon, i hate your lack of penises, married to otacon on the astral plane, i hate my penis, voted off the show, war has changed, got the flawed recessive genes, a hind d?, meta discussion, my otp should be yours too

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soviet_cowboy September 11 2008, 05:18:12 UTC
I wish I did, but it's so dense and there's really no beginning. If I started with one half baked idea, I'd have to explain why the half baked idea supporting it is utter bullshit.

I'm sure you're a very nice person but for the love of God Stop. Posting. You have a personal journal, please use it. This is all entirely painful to read. There's so many goddamn loopholes in everything here.

Additionally, you should really take your diction into consideration. Sure, more than half of us know all these pseudo-intellectual concepts and words you're using, but that doesn't mean you need to use them. You're making something fairly easy waaaay harder than it needs to be.

If you wanted to just talk about male, gay nerd psychology then that is fine, too. But somewhere else. Please.

Your... thesis paper on something unclear would make a lot more sense if you cut half the shit out of it. If you don't want to look like a misogynistic internet Penis Guy, then don't bring issues such as feminism and women into your essay at all.

If all you wanted to convey was how dudes see the Otacon/Snake relationship you could do research and leave out entirely how women think. The implication of writing a male POV is that you think women do not think the same thoughts as you, and therefore must be informed by your own personal experience. This also means you have no business making inferences on how women do think.

I am fairly certain you have not done extensive research in this area, so the only person you could be talking for is yourself. This is because all nerds would have to be similar enough that this set of rules could be applied to them. But they're really not.

I, myself and nerdy. But I do not live vicariously through Snake. Some do. Some do not feel the need to. Similarly, liking video games does not emasculate men. Giving into the concept of being whatever sort of weak does. Indulging stereotypes emasculates men. Playing computer games, writing dick fics, and looking up porno about fictional dudes doesn't.

This whole thing is not only insulting and condescending to women, it's also annoying to at least myself, a nerdy gay male in fandom. I owe a lot of respect to these women. They write for us and they are family to me. I do not appreciate the way you seem to be portraying them, especially with gender connotation.

This could and should have just been a personal essay. And posted to your personal journal. And not linked to us. Ever.

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soviet_cowboy September 11 2008, 05:18:36 UTC
PS I am on so much fucking pain medication right now. Goddamnit get off my internet.

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outofmysystem87 September 11 2008, 05:23:40 UTC
You obviously misunderstood the essay and refused to look at any of the discussion that occurred after (the serious discussion). But I won't bother explaining further since you seem to have made up your mind.

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soviet_cowboy September 11 2008, 05:29:22 UTC
AAAAAAAAA MOTHERLAND

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soviet_cowboy September 11 2008, 05:31:49 UTC
And it's really more your job to make your argument clear and precise so that stupid ol' me doesn't misunderstand it.

See why this is your fault and any discussion is just full of lol because you could have just wrote something better instead of making us face palm until we were red in the foreheads?

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