Fic Thoughts

[metonomia]

So, guys, what if the Weeping Angels from Dr Who were in Narnia/came from Narnia?  Because, because...something happened and so they didn't actually get woken up when Aslan de-stonified everybody (maybe because they would be dead of old age by that point or something).  So basically Jadis magic-spawned a whole new race (they all turned human-women-

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[ilysia_039]

I am thinking that it is time I explored Dr. Who. I've never watched a minute of it, but have heard about it from so many people... and you make it sound so interesting...

And Narnian world religious history! Fantastic. The whole bounds of the Winter issue is something I've actually been obsessing over for a bit, and I think it's plausible to say that the Islands were in isolation for the time being. I mean, I think it was Ruth who pointed out that salt water doesn't freeze, and Jadis would have called herself Empress if she'd ruled only the kitchen garden. But really, I've always considered Jadis to be a sort of Narnian problem; Archenland and Calormen seem to have made it through intact and I can't imagine that she would ignore those two lovely countries just to the south only to go after a few miserable islands. Just my two cents.

Also: your journal title- Ingrid Michaelson, yes? I can't believe I just noticed that. *facepalm*

[metonomia]

You *should* explore Dr. Who! It is really fabulous, and so many (a clear majority, almost all, I'd say) of the episodes are very gripping and very thinky.

YES. Thank you, that validates me nicely! I agree that Jadis is really a Narnian problem - apart from canon seeming to hint at that, I think she'd only really *want* Narnia, the source of the magic, and also I have vague thoughts that Jadis met Tash once and it didn't go so well for her, so she's not going to chance Calormen.

And yeah, it's Ingrid Michaelson! I only just added the subtitle, so I'm not surprised you didn't notice it before. :) Looove that song!

[ilysia_039]

*adds Dr. Who to list*

Jadis really always has seemed to be solely a Narnian (well, if you discount Charn) problem; it's the magic thing, I'm thinking. Also: Tash!

That song was what initially inspired my backup plan of fleeing to Maine and opening a diner. That song inspires me.

[metonomia]

I agree, it's totally the magic thing - she wants to subvert the magic of Narnia to herself so she wouldn't travel too far away from where Aslan sang it into being, and also I think she might be tied to the land somehow by dint of her being there when it was created and also because she ate that apple.

It IS an inspiring song, isn't it? And I can listen to it whether I'm happy or sad, and it always makes me feel better, and it's so pretty, with such fun lyrics!

[ilysia_039]

Oh, yes, the apple, yes. And since the world started in Narnia... that's where all the power is, where all the magic is. Why on earth would you want mountains or a great bloody desert when you can have pretty Narnia and all its crazy magic?

[metonomia]

Well, the matriarchal tribespeople from the desert would disagree there, but yes, exactly!

[ilysia_039]

Well, yes, the matriarchal tribespeople would disagree, but everyone knows they're mad from spending so much time in the desert, poor things.

Though I do wonder, if all the magic is centered in Narnia, what, exactly, Tash is doing in Calormen.

[metonomia]

Tash was the eagle-formed sky god of the desert peoples (who came from another planet, not earth, to Narnia soon after its creation), given to them by Aslan to guard them in the desert, and stolen by the first Calormenes (Archenlandish rebels) along with many women as they rode through the desert toward the oasis that would become Tashbaan. The Calormenes then dreamed/prayed Tash into his better-known form, and also dreamed his cohorts like Zardeenah.

[ilysia_039]

*blinks*

Narnian (world) religious history indeed.

This is so fantastic. I have no words.

[metonomia]

*shifty eyes*

I have a whole notebook filling up with this stuff. It is extremely diverting.

[ilysia_039]

*peers around room*

Oh, yes, diverting is one word for it. I find myself tragically less organized; every month or so, I go on the Great Paper Scrap Hunt to find all of the notes and histories that I've scribbled and then hidden away.

[rthstewart]

Whoa. So awesome. So, maybe Tash represents a more patriarchal view and you have a whole cult of the Mother Desert worship? Maybe the Tash of the desert worship is a sequential hermaphrodite and so can change sex? The dream concept is so cool -- it reminds me of the dreamtime of the aborigines -- I would think in that harsh landscape where there is so little, the landscapes of the mind would be very visual and rich.

[rthstewart]

Oh! You are alive! Yes, I'm hijacking Meto's thread to say, GO Watch Dr. Who and Torchwood. And, I loved the ideas we batted around that maybe Jadis had all sorts of nasty underwater creatures who did her bidding, to a point. But, I really do not think Jadis ever set foot on the Lone Islands -- now, north and west, perhaps, yes.

[ilysia_039]

*waves*

North and west, indeed! Those damned northern witches, always interfering...

(And, off topic, but... since I probably won't get around to answering reviews for a while *cough*becauseIamlazy*cough*, I just wanted to say how fantastically happy yours made me.)

And, also: your icon is rather hilarious. Bravo. (Brava?)

[rthstewart]

I'll hijack Meto's thread anyway, cuz she understands the brain splodeyness and train wreck appeal of Bedlamsbard but have you read any of her LJ Narnia worldbuilding of her Wars-verse? Trust me, I mean this with the highest of compliments in saying that your worldbuilding and Peter characterization were reminiscent of her work -- except yours is in canon and did not have the incest and insanity. It really shocked me to see that type of superb, complex, world building coming from you -- I had not expected it at all -- we've not had the opportunity really in your shorter work which packs such an emotional wallop but does not have the room to really expand the vision.

[ilysia_039]

*loves hijacking threads*

I'm feeling extremely complimented right now. Coming from you- what with your crazy-developed vision of not only Narnia but England as well... I've not read anything of Bedlamsbard, but I can see that this, like Doctor Who, is something I'm going to have to look into.

And now that I've finally had time to write again, I've discovered that I can't shut up. It's very unusual. For the first five or so chapters of UtSS, I had trouble working my way up to 3000 words, which, I'd decided, was about the lowest I was willing to go per chapter. The next chapter I'm working on? I've gotten nearly 5000 words in 2 days and I've not gotten through half of what I'd planned to. It's a monster. It's mostly politics, and world-building.

And the Mer-folk. God help me, but I'm probably going to spend pages and pages developing their hierarchy (which is matriarchal, by the way).

Like I said, I don't know what happened.