Everyone, and right now I pretty much really do mean EVERYONE, involved in the New 52 complete-fucking-fiasco (because no, DC, as a comics-loving woman, I am not fucking sold on your shit) seems to have two modes of thought on How To Draw Superheroes That Are Also Women:
1) DC's way, of vaguely-animated sexbots that men can comfortably whack off to if that's what they want; 2) This way, of assuming that any sexuality a woman displays is exploitative and wrong and what we wimmins don't want.
Also, wtf is wrong with Ms Marvel as she is? Yes. It's a bathing suit and sexyboots. HOWEVER, it is a bathing suit and sexyboots filled by a woman that will kick your ass as soon as look at you if you are misbehaving, and it is also the bathing suit and sexyboots Ms Marvel wore when she rode a nuclear missile into space and used the energy from the resulting explosion to take down the Sentry. I feel completely okay with her bathing suit and sexyboots. She is portrayed enough as a real woman (we really won't speak of Avengers 200) that I feel
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Ms Marvel was the one I had the biggest problem with, tbh. Maybe it was just the style she was originally drawn in - big and BAMF. She has muscles and wide shoulders and yes, she's "standard" beautiful, but she's not standard feminine, especially for comic books.
It was also the change that made the least sense. However little I agreed with the net result, in general you could see what the guy was aiming for in the origin story (though I did consistently have the sense that these "redesigns" were actually characters of his own, one and all). Ms Marvel, though, noooooot so much.
Lol, right. And I get his redesign of her... if there were other female characters who looked like they could kick ass and take names, instead of lowering the physicality of the original design.
I don't actually see that many overly muscled women in comics, tbh. I love the River Tam school because I like variety, not sex-bots with exchangable heads. If you look at the link that zhiva_the_mage linked, you see Starfire and Catwoman in action - they're both extraordinarily thin and very finely muscled.
There are some that are highly muscled - clearly, this version of Ms Marvel. I believe Powergirl is often drawn as highly muscular. Both of them are off-set by large breasts, but w/e. I don't often see women who look physically powerful. There seems to be a disconnect between what the women look like and what they "do" as heroes.
A random tangent on why I like the differences is that River Tam's school of fighting is a "smart" kind of combat: she and others like her use their supposed weaknesses against their opponents. I would like to see more women who look and act as though they can knock a man down with one hit as well.
I love the River Tam school because I like variety, not sex-bots with exchangable heads.
Heck, whatever the gender, I like variety rather than interchangeable action figures distinguishable only by the colors of their costumes; your brick who busts down doors, your speedster, and your Parkour Ninja really have no business sporting identical physiques--particularly if the physique in question is that of Schlong or Lady Sexhole.
1) DC's way, of vaguely-animated sexbots that men can comfortably whack off to if that's what they want;
2) This way, of assuming that any sexuality a woman displays is exploitative and wrong and what we wimmins don't want.
Also, wtf is wrong with Ms Marvel as she is? Yes. It's a bathing suit and sexyboots. HOWEVER, it is a bathing suit and sexyboots filled by a woman that will kick your ass as soon as look at you if you are misbehaving, and it is also the bathing suit and sexyboots Ms Marvel wore when she rode a nuclear missile into space and used the energy from the resulting explosion to take down the Sentry. I feel completely okay with her bathing suit and sexyboots. She is portrayed enough as a real woman (we really won't speak of Avengers 200) that I feel ( ... )
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I like Ms. Marvel big and BAMF, dammit.
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There are some that are highly muscled - clearly, this version of Ms Marvel. I believe Powergirl is often drawn as highly muscular. Both of them are off-set by large breasts, but w/e. I don't often see women who look physically powerful. There seems to be a disconnect between what the women look like and what they "do" as heroes.
A random tangent on why I like the differences is that River Tam's school of fighting is a "smart" kind of combat: she and others like her use their supposed weaknesses against their opponents. I would like to see more women who look and act as though they can knock a man down with one hit as well.
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Heck, whatever the gender, I like variety rather than interchangeable action figures distinguishable only by the colors of their costumes; your brick who busts down doors, your speedster, and your Parkour Ninja really have no business sporting identical physiques--particularly if the physique in question is that of Schlong or Lady Sexhole.
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