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Utah lawmaker wants to remove penalties for shelters that house runaway children
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) _ A state representative is seeking to change a law that forces homeless shelters to turn away runaways and homeless children seeking refuge for the night.
"The point is to allow the shelters to take care of these kids so they're not out on the street," said Rep. Lorie Fowlke, a Republican. "This will just allow them to have a safe bed, a safe meal, take a shower, access some information and help them get on their feet."
Employees at private shelters can currently be prosecuted for harboring a minor if they allow them to stay overnight. Runaway children over 10 can stay at a state-run shelter, but some refuse to for various reasons.
Lawmakers were scheduled to take up Fowlke's bill Wednesday. Under the measure, a runaway's parent or the Department of Child Protective Services would still need to be told where the child is within eight hours of a shelter learning the child's situation. But if a guardian, parent or a law enforcement officer fails to pick up the child, the shelter wouldn't be forced to kick out the runaway.
A child could also stay at the shelter if a parent intentionally fails to provide food, shelter or clothing or make reasonable arrangements to get the child home safely. Employees also wouldn't be prosecuted for providing shelter if there wasn't a reasonable way for the youngster to immediately notify parents and authorities.
Fowlke said many runaway children belong to parents who, because of drugs or other problems, don't care where their children are, leaving them no place to go.
"The shelters do describe these kids as throwaways and not runaways," Fowlke said. "In the past they've always had to throw them out at night, even if it's a blizzard or whatever. That sounds horrible to me."
Fowlke also said her bill might be able to help teenage boys referred to as "lost boys," who have either left or been kicked out of polygamist communities.
However, Shannon Price, director of the Diversity Foundation, which provides aid to so-called lost boys, says very few of those boys would be helped by removing shelter restrictions. She said other options are needed for such boys.
"It doesn't really come up that often because the children aren't going to tell you who their parents are because polygamy is illegal. Some may, but more often they won't," Price said. "What these kids need is stability. Most of them are not going to go back to their parents, so they need to have a permanent residence they can have some sense of belonging to."
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So the Mormon conservatives enacted a law that forces shelters to report kids to their parents/guardians.
This doesn't help the kids who are the product of broken homes with parents who are drug addicts and/or just low-rent trash who can't take care of their kids.
It's mainly a tool to serve the public image of the conservatives while kowtowing to the Mormon church elders, who appear to have an arrangement with the polygamist criminal families.
And this bill has the proverbial snowball's chance in hell of passing in the Utah legislature.
RANT ALERT!!!
Great, we're a supposedly secular democracy with one state completely dominated by a pseudo-religious bunch of scammers and self-appointed godlings who refuse to follow the laws of the rest of the nation (ie: polygamy - the other southwestern states bordering Mexico also have sizable polygamist groups, as does Mexico, where they are also protected by the political establishment in return for cash payoffs). They also have this schizoid attitude about the children their arrogant old pricks produce.
They don't want to keep the boys around, cause they can't fuck them and still maintain their patriarchal dignity, and they don't want the young men competing for the little girls the old pricks want to keep for their own stable of happy little breeding cows. They throw the boys off the family ranch/compound/whorehouse/breeding farm.
They also force the local shelters to report runaways (so they know where to get the kids they do want to take back, as unpaid labor), and to kick the little bastards out on the street to discourage others from running away in the first place.
The potential runaways they want to discourage are the girls... so the kids who want to run and get the hell out of the scamming cult are told that "no matter where you go, they won't let you stay, and they have to call us and report where you are so we can find you and drag you back". Most of the girls, who are carefully trained to be nice little obedient housemaids and breeding stock for the old men, will stay quietly in their breeding pens, and the few who do manage to find the guts to think for themselves and get the fuck out of the breeding farm get reported to their masters and retrieved.
The boys will probably think twice about staying in the state of Utah, since being reported means being taken back and probably beaten and starved as punishment for making the patriarch look bad... and once out of the state, the interest in what a runaway BOY says about the Mormons there is ignored. Only the testimony of a girl from one of these cult groups is considered newsworthy, because the sexual domination and abuse of teenage girls is titillating, which speaks volumes about the professional attitudes of the media.
Do we really want to elect a president who is hand-in-glove with Mormons? John McCain is a Republican from Arizona, which has a sizable contingent of the fundamentalist Mormons who persist in practicing the sleazy cult of polygamy. Their status in that state, as well as in Utah, appears to be protected by the political officials of the state, since those officials show little or no interest in extinguishing the illegal practice of polygamy. Anyone who conspires to allow this practice to continue has no place in public office, as this attitude and policy shows either a willingness to make deals favoring the polygamists, flat-out jackshit cowardice, or self-serving expediency. In fact, I would strongly suggest that campaign contributions to all politicians in these four states be audited on an annual basis, and that the personal property records and bank records of all public employees be audited.
Do we need another chickenshit sleazeball opportunist and dealmaker in the White House? I don't think so.
What we need is people (in the federal govt or in the states of Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas) with the balls to declare legal war on this scamming polygamist cult - to freeze their bank accounts, audit their tax returns, business records, and federal farm subsidy records, child support payments, child welfare payments, food stamps and other government-supplied support for their extended polygamist families, then force them to account for every woman and child on their property, prosecute them for bigamy, prosecute the women for conspiring to commit bigamy and fraud, confiscate their property, and remove their children.
As far as I'm concerned, Mormonism is just another cult scam like $cientology, and it deserves the same level of investigation and prosecution as the thieving bullies of that scamming cult. The personal bank accounts of all state employees in the states in which polygamists are located should be subject to oversight to prevent payoffs for turning a blind eye to these freaks, and anyone with personal ties to polygamists should be barred from public office or service to prevent further protection of their illegal acts.
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) _ A state representative is seeking to change a law that forces homeless shelters to turn away runaways and homeless children seeking refuge for the night.
"The point is to allow the shelters to take care of these kids so they're not out on the street," said Rep. Lorie Fowlke, a Republican. "This will just allow them to have a safe bed, a safe meal, take a shower, access some information and help them get on their feet."
Employees at private shelters can currently be prosecuted for harboring a minor if they allow them to stay overnight. Runaway children over 10 can stay at a state-run shelter, but some refuse to for various reasons.
Lawmakers were scheduled to take up Fowlke's bill Wednesday. Under the measure, a runaway's parent or the Department of Child Protective Services would still need to be told where the child is within eight hours of a shelter learning the child's situation. But if a guardian, parent or a law enforcement officer fails to pick up the child, the shelter wouldn't be forced to kick out the runaway.
A child could also stay at the shelter if a parent intentionally fails to provide food, shelter or clothing or make reasonable arrangements to get the child home safely. Employees also wouldn't be prosecuted for providing shelter if there wasn't a reasonable way for the youngster to immediately notify parents and authorities.
Fowlke said many runaway children belong to parents who, because of drugs or other problems, don't care where their children are, leaving them no place to go.
"The shelters do describe these kids as throwaways and not runaways," Fowlke said. "In the past they've always had to throw them out at night, even if it's a blizzard or whatever. That sounds horrible to me."
Fowlke also said her bill might be able to help teenage boys referred to as "lost boys," who have either left or been kicked out of polygamist communities.
However, Shannon Price, director of the Diversity Foundation, which provides aid to so-called lost boys, says very few of those boys would be helped by removing shelter restrictions. She said other options are needed for such boys.
"It doesn't really come up that often because the children aren't going to tell you who their parents are because polygamy is illegal. Some may, but more often they won't," Price said. "What these kids need is stability. Most of them are not going to go back to their parents, so they need to have a permanent residence they can have some sense of belonging to."
----- * * * -----
So the Mormon conservatives enacted a law that forces shelters to report kids to their parents/guardians.
This doesn't help the kids who are the product of broken homes with parents who are drug addicts and/or just low-rent trash who can't take care of their kids.
It's mainly a tool to serve the public image of the conservatives while kowtowing to the Mormon church elders, who appear to have an arrangement with the polygamist criminal families.
And this bill has the proverbial snowball's chance in hell of passing in the Utah legislature.
RANT ALERT!!!
Great, we're a supposedly secular democracy with one state completely dominated by a pseudo-religious bunch of scammers and self-appointed godlings who refuse to follow the laws of the rest of the nation (ie: polygamy - the other southwestern states bordering Mexico also have sizable polygamist groups, as does Mexico, where they are also protected by the political establishment in return for cash payoffs). They also have this schizoid attitude about the children their arrogant old pricks produce.
They don't want to keep the boys around, cause they can't fuck them and still maintain their patriarchal dignity, and they don't want the young men competing for the little girls the old pricks want to keep for their own stable of happy little breeding cows. They throw the boys off the family ranch/compound/whorehouse/breeding farm.
They also force the local shelters to report runaways (so they know where to get the kids they do want to take back, as unpaid labor), and to kick the little bastards out on the street to discourage others from running away in the first place.
The potential runaways they want to discourage are the girls... so the kids who want to run and get the hell out of the scamming cult are told that "no matter where you go, they won't let you stay, and they have to call us and report where you are so we can find you and drag you back". Most of the girls, who are carefully trained to be nice little obedient housemaids and breeding stock for the old men, will stay quietly in their breeding pens, and the few who do manage to find the guts to think for themselves and get the fuck out of the breeding farm get reported to their masters and retrieved.
The boys will probably think twice about staying in the state of Utah, since being reported means being taken back and probably beaten and starved as punishment for making the patriarch look bad... and once out of the state, the interest in what a runaway BOY says about the Mormons there is ignored. Only the testimony of a girl from one of these cult groups is considered newsworthy, because the sexual domination and abuse of teenage girls is titillating, which speaks volumes about the professional attitudes of the media.
Do we really want to elect a president who is hand-in-glove with Mormons? John McCain is a Republican from Arizona, which has a sizable contingent of the fundamentalist Mormons who persist in practicing the sleazy cult of polygamy. Their status in that state, as well as in Utah, appears to be protected by the political officials of the state, since those officials show little or no interest in extinguishing the illegal practice of polygamy. Anyone who conspires to allow this practice to continue has no place in public office, as this attitude and policy shows either a willingness to make deals favoring the polygamists, flat-out jackshit cowardice, or self-serving expediency. In fact, I would strongly suggest that campaign contributions to all politicians in these four states be audited on an annual basis, and that the personal property records and bank records of all public employees be audited.
Do we need another chickenshit sleazeball opportunist and dealmaker in the White House? I don't think so.
What we need is people (in the federal govt or in the states of Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas) with the balls to declare legal war on this scamming polygamist cult - to freeze their bank accounts, audit their tax returns, business records, and federal farm subsidy records, child support payments, child welfare payments, food stamps and other government-supplied support for their extended polygamist families, then force them to account for every woman and child on their property, prosecute them for bigamy, prosecute the women for conspiring to commit bigamy and fraud, confiscate their property, and remove their children.
As far as I'm concerned, Mormonism is just another cult scam like $cientology, and it deserves the same level of investigation and prosecution as the thieving bullies of that scamming cult. The personal bank accounts of all state employees in the states in which polygamists are located should be subject to oversight to prevent payoffs for turning a blind eye to these freaks, and anyone with personal ties to polygamists should be barred from public office or service to prevent further protection of their illegal acts.