Why i get so pissed...(email recap)

[meridethfate]

Two Different Versions! Two Different Morals

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[forsythferret]

I think a more realistic version would involve the grasshopper starting a company dedicated to doing nothing, like say giving subprime mortgages or similar, and then convincing the ant that he can make all these amazing buys if he mortgages his house, then when the cold comes, the grasshopper jacks up the interest rate and drives the ant from his home, while meanwhile the grasshopper complains to government, who throws the ant in jail and garnishes his wages for the rest of his life to pay back the debt he owes the grasshopper. And then the government throws money at the poor grasshopper because after all, his mortgage business is part of the lifeblood of the economy, we can't let it fail! He uses the money to buy up a string of foreclosed houses and buildings and rent them out at exorbitant prices to the ants who couldn't afford to live in them any more. So next summer rolls around, and the ants scrimp and save but have to give everything to the grasshopper to keep their houses, while the grasshopper hangs out on tropical

[meridethfate]

Which only states that it doesnt matter which end of the spectrum you are on...if your extreming it, your a giant asshopper?

[meridethfate]

You're, even. Damn cold drugs.

[forsythferret]

Well, my point was more about likelyhood and the fact that a rich jerk exploiting people isn't newsworthy, and somebody pooor being poor isn't really newsworthy either.

Anyways, in the original forward, why didn't the ant just sue back, since if the whole point was supposed to be about how there's all these evil liberals out to make things soft for poor people, then he'd be poor now and their sympathies would lie with him. :)

[meridethfate]

I think the whole point is how the middle class is carrying everyone and they are the ones currently under attack. The middle class busts it continously--they dont get rich, they just get enough to get by comfortably. And not even the poor, but the lazy and are poor because they are lazy are trying to get someone else to carry them again. As for your analogy? The mortgage industry was crap and giving the horders tax breaks is just as bad as giving that lazy jerk that cant work for himself what he needs.

Im still confused as to where the liberals and evilness has to do with anything. I think its kind of like alternative music, its becoming mainstream to see this as crap (that would be the liberals?) and the oddities are the ones that see the poormans plight or the richmans hate as being normal...huh.

[forsythferret]

Well, it name-checks a large number of Democratic politicians, the nearest thing to liberals in US public discourse most of the time. Oprah, Jesse Jackson, and Kermit the Frog? The invocation of government regulations as this horrible bad thing that is crushing the poor hard-working ant. The presentation of lawsuits as this illegitimate thing being exploited by the grasshopper for his own ends. The presentation of poverty as a result of being lazy, rather than because of lack of opportunity, education, abuse, mental illness, or losing your house and job because you got sick. And the moral

lol..thats cause we dont fight

[meridethfate]

I love you. We always come at this from different prospectives. I have lived around the welfare queens. They do exist. And all the issues you gave about the poor are valid issues, and all the issues you gave about the greedy rich are valid issues. And most of the democrats do seem to want to envoke even more welfarish style programs to fix the problems of poverty and the inablity to "live the american dream". Its like putting a piece of duct tape over a five foot gap in the hoover dam. Or building a house with no foundation