NCIS 6x03 Capitol Offense
I haven't updated in forever, and given my life at the moment, I'm unlikely to update again anytime soon. However, I went to respond to a friend's post about the latest NCIS episode and found that I had so much to say that I way overdid the character limit, so I'm sticking it here
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I think I am where a lot of fen were last season re: Abby - and I hate that, because I love Abby - but really she was just so annoying. I'll give you the bit about the fridge was okay and kind of fun, except for the timing of it tied in with the case, but after that . . . No way would she have gone that far - it was totally OOC and unbelievable. I just did not like it at all - it irritated me beyond measure.
I agree over the barber thing and Ziva should have known. Again, it's one of the oldest plot devices around - servants, barbers, etc. etc.
The wife went to Gibbs so that we could quite clearly be told the Aide wasn't the killer; she had to totally overplay it, just in case people still thought it was him. Apart from that and to give us the 'shooting in the back' thing the only other plot device of which I can think was what I waffled about: the fact that Gibbs had forgiven one of his wives for adultery. Actually what occurred to me in the middle of the night last night was the fact that Senator and wife knew about Shannon and Kelly; suddenly we're going from it all being hush-hush and none of his friends knowing to more people knowing. I digress.
People don't pay attention to signing things, no. I just felt it OTT and forced - I think we might have got equally irritated by this episode, but by different things :-)
I was kind of assuming/thinking the Aide was actually taking the drug anyway and so he'd have them in his system; but if Senator went around there for a drink - given that we were meant to think Aide was in love with him, I think that would have been an easy thing to do to feed him more, and if they were prescribed, they'd be to hand. You make a very valid point about the bag being over his head without evidence of a struggle, there should have been more evidence, true. And Ducky would have noticed it.
I thought the message that was on the screen was the suicide note, but I may be wrong - I'll check when I rewatch with J. Again though I can easily, so very easily, buy how stupid the Senator and his wife was, especially as they were intelligent people - it's just common-place for these kinds of shows. So no, I didn't have those issues with this, it was just another one of the 'stupid criminals' which is at the heart of most shows with murder. I don't get bothered by that, as I said , I'd never watch if I did.
It didn't ring true the kids being so surprised Gibbs was still investigating, not at all.
They confessed because that's what they do in these shows *sigh*
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Well, at least I'm not the only one who noticed. I think it makes even less sense given the scene with the shirt that you reminded me of. So McGee was forced to borrow clothing from Tony and he still hasn't brought in a change of clothes?!?!
I think I am where a lot of fen were last season re: Abby - and I hate that, because I love Abby - but really she was just so annoying....
Really? A lot of fen hated her last year? I didn't love her, but I don't remember her bothering me. (My aggravation was mostly towards the Froggie story if I remember correctly.) But, yes, she is making up for it this season, as far as I am concerned. Like Tony, I would expect a little growth and maturity from her character. I don't want her to completely give up her quirky ways, but I don't want her to become nothing more than her quirks, if that makes sense.
The wife went to Gibbs so that we could quite clearly be told the Aide wasn't the killer; she had to totally overplay it, just in case people still thought it was him.
*iz confused* Shouldn't they want us to think it was him? Isn't a good mystery about misdirection?
Apart from that and to give us the 'shooting in the back' thing
But, as I said above, again that seems like lazy writing, where an entire point/scene is done just to serve one of the writers' needs and be damned if it serves the main story. I know that they needed an "aha!" moment, but the whole scene just felt wrong and extraneous to that gotcha moment.
the fact that Gibbs had forgiven one of his wives for adultery.
We knew that at least one of his wives cheated on him, right? So I'm not sure I get why that should be a big plot point/character development. Of course, I'm not feeling too charitable as far as this episode goes, so take that with a grain of salt.
Actually what occurred to me in the middle of the night last night was the fact that Senator and wife knew about Shannon and Kelly; suddenly we're going from it all being hush-hush and none of his friends knowing to more people knowing. I digress.
See, I didn't have that problem. The Senator served with Gibbs in Desert Storm and thus it seemed like he would have known him as a couple, before the whole situation developed with their deaths and thus knew about it first-hand. It wasn't that he had to be told about them afterwards, like most of the current contemporaries. I don't know if that makes sense or not, but it is how I read it.
I was kind of assuming/thinking the Aide was actually taking the drug anyway and so he'd have them in his system; but if Senator went around there for a drink - given that we were meant to think Aide was in love with him, I think that would have been an easy thing to do to feed him more, and if they were prescribed, they'd be to hand...
I suppose I could see that if I'm feeling charitable. Of course that assumes that the Senator was smart enough to do research on his Aide to know that he was taking the medication to begin with. (And again, that feeds into the dichotomy of the smart/stupid criminal, which I hate.)
And Ducky would have noticed it.
Of course he would have/should have.
I'll check when I rewatch with J.
Did you check? I could have sworn that they called Gibbs over to listen to the voice program read the precise message on the computer. I do not deny that I could be wrong, though.
So no, I didn't have those issues with this, it was just another one of the 'stupid criminals' which is at the heart of most shows with murder. I don't get bothered by that, as I said , I'd never watch if I did.
As I said above, it was more the dichotomy; how he did some very smart things and some very stupid things. And it wasn't even like it was just one stupid error that tripped him up (which I could have let slide), but rather a whole host of stupid things intermixed with the other stuff.
They confessed because that's what they do in these shows *sigh*
I know. Particularly on Cold Case which often irks me. However, it was just a final nail in the coffin of all of the things I didn't like, so I had to mention it.
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Oh, no. That is the kind of thing that tends to catch my interest more than other stuff - I'm weird like that. It is more than a bit OOC for McGee - as you say. It was obviously there so we could see Vance being 'nice and chummy and caring about his staff' unlike Gibbs who wouldn't have thought to suggest it. Part of the 'intrigue'.
Abby:
Really? A lot of fen hated her last year? I didn't love her, but I don't remember her bothering me. But, yes, she is making up for it this season, as far as I am concerned. Like Tony, I would expect a little growth and maturity from her character. I don't want her to completely give up her quirky ways, but I don't want her to become nothing more than her quirks, if that makes sense.
Oh, yes. And not just on LJ, but on a couple of lists too. 'Dog Tags' was the ep that annoyed folk most of all as they couldn't believe she'd do that. It makes perfect sense and I agree with you. I don't want her to either, but we need to get the balance back.
*iz confused* Shouldn't they want us to think it was him? Isn't a good mystery about misdirection?
Maybe it's just me; maybe most folk were taken in. As you say it is a good mystery practise, but there again who knows what they are thinking.
But, as I said above, again that seems like lazy writing, where an entire point/scene is done just to serve one of the writers' needs and be damned if it serves the main story. I know that they needed an "aha!" moment, but the whole scene just felt wrong and extraneous to that gotcha moment.
There has been some poor and lazy writing in a lot of eps, I'm sad to say.
We knew that at least one of his wives cheated on him, right? So I'm not sure I get why that should be a big plot point/character development. Of course, I'm not feeling too charitable as far as this episode goes, so take that with a grain of salt.
We know Diane did, yes. But we also know there is still no love lost there, thus no 'forgiveness'. Maybe I'm being too hopeful that this was significant.
See, I didn't have that problem. The Senator served with Gibbs in Desert Storm and thus it seemed like he would have known him as a couple, before the whole situation developed with their deaths and thus knew about it first-hand. It wasn't that he had to be told about them afterwards, like most of the current contemporaries. I don't know if that makes sense or not, but it is how I read it.
But it was someone else who knew about it. Now okay so a Senator and Gibbs aren't likely to run into one another on a day-to-day basis, but given that Gibbs wanted to keep it all hush-hush, well. . . Again, I think it was poor writing. But that's me.
I suppose I could see that if I'm feeling charitable. Of course that assumes that the Senator was smart enough to do research on his Aide to know that he was taking the medication to begin with. (And again, that feeds into the dichotomy of the smart/stupid criminal, which I hate.)
*Smiles* I'm sure he would have known, without needing to do any research. I can't see the tablets being hidden, they work long hours he'd probably have seen him taking them. Or as they were having sex at his place (er, not him and the Aide *g*) one can see them going to the bathroom cabinet for something - one assumes they cleaned up there too. So . . .
Did you check? I could have sworn that they called Gibbs over to listen to the voice program read the precise message on the computer. I do not deny that I could be wrong, though.
Actually you were correct.
As I said above, it was more the dichotomy; how he did some very smart things and some very stupid things. And it wasn't even like it was just one stupid error that tripped him up (which I could have let slide), but rather a whole host of stupid things intermixed with the other stuff.
But to me it was 'normal' for this kind of show. But I can understand your frustration given how much you hated the episode.
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