Regarding Syrian "refugees" - arguments and response to talking points
My words on Islam in general.
Islam has a conquest, oppression, slavery, rape, murder problem. It isn't just now, but throughout history. It isn't just one location, but world wide.
The two largest sources of terrorism in the world are Iran and Saudi Arabia. Both actively export terrorism. Both are not just Muslim countries by population, but by strict rule.
Most of the worst strife in the world happens to involve Muslims on at least one side of it. Throughout the world where there are Muslims living with others there is usually conflict.
We get it. Not all Muslims are terrorists. But most world terrorism for the last how many years can be traced back to Islam?
The religion _in practice_ has a problem, and needs to address that. Rational people are sick to death of Muslims killing people then the rush to tell us the real issue is "right wing backlash" and oppression of Muslims.
The FIRST action, every damn time we have to see this crap, should be to include condemnation of the latest Muslim bloodshed against innocents.
Leftists insist that a larger Muslim population isn't dangerous
"Second, Islamic State has a practical reason to focus on France: With the largest Muslim population in Western Europe, it has become Europe’s biggest potential source of Islamic State recruits. "
That's the LA Times accidentally admitting that.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-islamic-state-targeted-france-20151115-story.html
Leftists claim the "refugees" are being vetted. This is a lie.
FBI Director Robert Comey: "The only thing we can query is information that we have. So, if we have no information on someone, they’ve never crossed our radar screen, they’ve never been a ripple in the pond, there will be no record of them there and so it will be challenging."
FBI Assistant Director Michael Steinbach to the House Homeland Security Committee: "The concern in Syria is that we don’t have systems in places on the ground to collect information to vet…You’re talking about a country that is a failed state, that does not have any infrastructure, so to speak. So all of the dataset, the police, the intel services that normally you would go to to seek information doesn’t exist."
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/11/15/obama-lackey-ben-rhodes-spreads-lies-about-vetting-syrian-refugees-on-sunday-news-talk-shows/
Christians have been excluded as leftists lecture us that we must accept Muslims
"America is about to accept 9000 Syrian Muslims, refugees of the brutal war between the Assad regime and its Sunni opposition, which includes ISIS, Al Qaeda, and various other militias. That number is predicted to increase each year. There are no Christian refugees that will be admitted.
Why? Because the Department of State is adhering with all the rigidity of a Soviet era bureaucracy to the rule that only people at risk from massacres launched by the regime qualify for refugee status. The rapes of Christian women and the butchery of Christian children do not count. No matter how moved Americans were this Christmas season by the plight of their fellow Christ followers in Syria and Iraq, no matter how horrific the visuals of beheadings, enslavement, and mass murder, the Christians fleeing death do not engender the compassion of this president.
The Christians are being raped, tortured, and murdered by militias, not by the Syrian government. This technicality condemns them to continue to be victims without hope"
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/228670-no-room-in-america-for-christian-refugees
Those Christians being excluded we KNOW are targeted for genocide, and there are menus online pricing Christian children sex slaves. Those Christians HAVE NO refuge. Yet they are ignored.
"A recently discovered and interpreted document reveals that the Islamic State has an actual price list it uses to sell the women and children its terrorists take - and that prices vary, depending on age, gender and ethnic background."
"And women and children between the ages of 10 and 20 are set at $127 each. Children, meanwhile, between the ages of 1 and 9 are priced to sell for $169, the document reads"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/12/islamic-state-price-list-for-sale-christian-woman/
On comparing these refugees to refusing Jews during WWII
1. Jews were not a terror threat; there is evidence terrorists are hiding among Syrian refugees.
2. Jews were singled out for persecution by the Nazis, not (initially) fleeing an ongoing war.
3. Jews had nowhere to go; Syrian refugees should have many places to go.
4. Opposition to Jewish refugees was “racial”; opposition to Syrian refugees is based on security concerns.
5. Many of the Syrian “refugees” are neither Syrian, nor refugees.
6. The Jewish refugees had communities willing and able to resettle them; the Syrian refugees may not.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/17/why-syrian-refugees-are-not-like-jewish-refugees/
More on comparing these 'refugees' to Jews
"No self-identifying Jews in the early 20th century were randomly massacring European citizens in magazine offices and concert halls, and there was no “Jewish State” establishing sovereignty over tens of thousands of square miles of territory, and publicly slaughtering anyone who opposed its advance. Among Syrian Muslims, there is. The vast majority of Syrian Muslims are not party to these strains of radicalism and violence, but it would be dangerous to suggest that they do not exist, or that our refugee-resettlement program need not take account of them."
"Third, European Jews in the early 20th century were more amenable to assimilation than are Syrian Muslims in the early 21st. By the time of the rise of Nazism, Jews had participated in the intellectual and cultural life of Germany for a century and a half - a life that, despite regional particularities, indisputably fell under the broad banner of Western civilization, in which America participated, too. Moving from Munich to Miami took some getting used to, but you could hear Beethoven in both. [...] The intellectual, cultural, and political traditions of Syria are not in concert with those of the West, and it would be foolish to think that that does not matter - especially when combined with the uncertain sympathies noted above."
"Finally: Jewish refugees - for example, those in the SS St. Louis - were coming from Germany (or Nazi-controlled Austria or Czechoslovakia), but most Syrian refugees seeking entry into the United States have already found refuge elsewhere. Of the 18,000 refugee-resettlement referrals that the United States has received from the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, “the vast majority,” according to the State Department, are from Jordan, Turkey, Lebanon, and Egypt (and Iraq, parts of which remain sanctuaries from the Islamic State). It is one thing to rescue Jews from imminent danger; it is another to offer greater safety to those who already have it."
"'No regrets' is a hashtag, not a policy proposal."
http://www.nationalreview.com/syrian-refugees-arent-1939s-jews
Islam has a conquest, oppression, slavery, rape, murder problem. It isn't just now, but throughout history. It isn't just one location, but world wide.
The two largest sources of terrorism in the world are Iran and Saudi Arabia. Both actively export terrorism. Both are not just Muslim countries by population, but by strict rule.
Most of the worst strife in the world happens to involve Muslims on at least one side of it. Throughout the world where there are Muslims living with others there is usually conflict.
We get it. Not all Muslims are terrorists. But most world terrorism for the last how many years can be traced back to Islam?
The religion _in practice_ has a problem, and needs to address that. Rational people are sick to death of Muslims killing people then the rush to tell us the real issue is "right wing backlash" and oppression of Muslims.
The FIRST action, every damn time we have to see this crap, should be to include condemnation of the latest Muslim bloodshed against innocents.
Leftists insist that a larger Muslim population isn't dangerous
"Second, Islamic State has a practical reason to focus on France: With the largest Muslim population in Western Europe, it has become Europe’s biggest potential source of Islamic State recruits. "
That's the LA Times accidentally admitting that.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-islamic-state-targeted-france-20151115-story.html
Leftists claim the "refugees" are being vetted. This is a lie.
FBI Director Robert Comey: "The only thing we can query is information that we have. So, if we have no information on someone, they’ve never crossed our radar screen, they’ve never been a ripple in the pond, there will be no record of them there and so it will be challenging."
FBI Assistant Director Michael Steinbach to the House Homeland Security Committee: "The concern in Syria is that we don’t have systems in places on the ground to collect information to vet…You’re talking about a country that is a failed state, that does not have any infrastructure, so to speak. So all of the dataset, the police, the intel services that normally you would go to to seek information doesn’t exist."
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/11/15/obama-lackey-ben-rhodes-spreads-lies-about-vetting-syrian-refugees-on-sunday-news-talk-shows/
Christians have been excluded as leftists lecture us that we must accept Muslims
"America is about to accept 9000 Syrian Muslims, refugees of the brutal war between the Assad regime and its Sunni opposition, which includes ISIS, Al Qaeda, and various other militias. That number is predicted to increase each year. There are no Christian refugees that will be admitted.
Why? Because the Department of State is adhering with all the rigidity of a Soviet era bureaucracy to the rule that only people at risk from massacres launched by the regime qualify for refugee status. The rapes of Christian women and the butchery of Christian children do not count. No matter how moved Americans were this Christmas season by the plight of their fellow Christ followers in Syria and Iraq, no matter how horrific the visuals of beheadings, enslavement, and mass murder, the Christians fleeing death do not engender the compassion of this president.
The Christians are being raped, tortured, and murdered by militias, not by the Syrian government. This technicality condemns them to continue to be victims without hope"
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/228670-no-room-in-america-for-christian-refugees
Those Christians being excluded we KNOW are targeted for genocide, and there are menus online pricing Christian children sex slaves. Those Christians HAVE NO refuge. Yet they are ignored.
"A recently discovered and interpreted document reveals that the Islamic State has an actual price list it uses to sell the women and children its terrorists take - and that prices vary, depending on age, gender and ethnic background."
"And women and children between the ages of 10 and 20 are set at $127 each. Children, meanwhile, between the ages of 1 and 9 are priced to sell for $169, the document reads"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/12/islamic-state-price-list-for-sale-christian-woman/
On comparing these refugees to refusing Jews during WWII
1. Jews were not a terror threat; there is evidence terrorists are hiding among Syrian refugees.
2. Jews were singled out for persecution by the Nazis, not (initially) fleeing an ongoing war.
3. Jews had nowhere to go; Syrian refugees should have many places to go.
4. Opposition to Jewish refugees was “racial”; opposition to Syrian refugees is based on security concerns.
5. Many of the Syrian “refugees” are neither Syrian, nor refugees.
6. The Jewish refugees had communities willing and able to resettle them; the Syrian refugees may not.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/17/why-syrian-refugees-are-not-like-jewish-refugees/
More on comparing these 'refugees' to Jews
"No self-identifying Jews in the early 20th century were randomly massacring European citizens in magazine offices and concert halls, and there was no “Jewish State” establishing sovereignty over tens of thousands of square miles of territory, and publicly slaughtering anyone who opposed its advance. Among Syrian Muslims, there is. The vast majority of Syrian Muslims are not party to these strains of radicalism and violence, but it would be dangerous to suggest that they do not exist, or that our refugee-resettlement program need not take account of them."
"Third, European Jews in the early 20th century were more amenable to assimilation than are Syrian Muslims in the early 21st. By the time of the rise of Nazism, Jews had participated in the intellectual and cultural life of Germany for a century and a half - a life that, despite regional particularities, indisputably fell under the broad banner of Western civilization, in which America participated, too. Moving from Munich to Miami took some getting used to, but you could hear Beethoven in both. [...] The intellectual, cultural, and political traditions of Syria are not in concert with those of the West, and it would be foolish to think that that does not matter - especially when combined with the uncertain sympathies noted above."
"Finally: Jewish refugees - for example, those in the SS St. Louis - were coming from Germany (or Nazi-controlled Austria or Czechoslovakia), but most Syrian refugees seeking entry into the United States have already found refuge elsewhere. Of the 18,000 refugee-resettlement referrals that the United States has received from the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, “the vast majority,” according to the State Department, are from Jordan, Turkey, Lebanon, and Egypt (and Iraq, parts of which remain sanctuaries from the Islamic State). It is one thing to rescue Jews from imminent danger; it is another to offer greater safety to those who already have it."
"'No regrets' is a hashtag, not a policy proposal."
http://www.nationalreview.com/syrian-refugees-arent-1939s-jews