Obama loving America - Are critics of Giuliani and the "journalists" playing gotcha with GOP on this subject ignorant, idiots, zealots, or liars? It's one or more of those. With an objective look, it's obvious.
Giuliani recently said: “I do not believe, and I know this is a horrible thing to say, but I do not believe that the president loves America [...] He doesn’t love you. And he doesn’t love me. He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up through love of this country.”
Giuliani was ridiculed and vilified for that. Liberals react to it like a gun shot next to a monkey cage. They hate truth.
Here is a link I ran into that sparked me doing this post:
http://weaselzippers.us/215691-obama-identifies-with-the-911-killers/ Obama Identifies With The 9/11 Killers
Quoting Obama in Dreams From My Father: “'This collective history, this past, directly touches my own,' he added. 'Not merely because, as a consequence of 9/11, my name is an irresistible target of mocking websites from overzealous Republican operatives. But also because the underlying struggle between worlds of plenty and worlds of want…is the struggle set forth, on a miniature scale, in this book,' which at its core is ***an indictment against Western imperialism, racism and colonialism.***
Obama goes on to say he identifies with the 'desperation and disorder of the powerless'.
So by Obama's own admission he saw 9/11 and his thought was "this past, directly touches *my own*", "worlds of plenty and worlds of want".
I'm going to try to put the following information in rough chronological order of Obama's life. At the end I link to a page that has all of the links, all of which are left wing sources.
From ages 6 to 10, Obama lived in Indonesia. Will anyone dispute that 6-10 are important years in a person's development?
Newsweek - "Yet the poverty and corruption of Indonesia would come to instill 'a relentless skepticism' in the child, he later wrote."
Obama - "This collective history, this past, directly touches my own. Not merely because the bombs of Al Qaeda have marked, with an eerie precision, some of the landscapes of my life - the buildings and roads and faces of Nairobi, Bali, Manhattan"
Obama - "I have seen, the desperation and disorder of the powerless: how it twists the lives of children on the streets of Jakarta or Nairobi in much the same way it does the lives of children on Chicago's"
The roads and landscapes of his life. This past touches his own. From ages 6-10 he saw Indonesia and the impact was "relentless".
He went from Indonesia to a private school in Hawaii. If a Republican private school would not be considered a window to the common American.
Obama- "The opportunity that Hawaii offered-to experience a variety of cultures in a climate of mutual respect-became an integral part of my world view, and *a basis for the values that I hold most dear*."
Souther Poverty Law Center - "Caucasians, who comprise about 25% of the ethnically diverse state's 1.3 million residents"
More SPLC on Hawaii - 'The last day of school has long been unofficially designated 'Kill Haole Day,' with white students singled out for harassment and violence.'" If you ever watch a show set in Hawaii and one of the characters is slinging around the term Haole, know that it's not unusual, and it's like saying 'nigger'.
Good or bad, this is far from typical. What became the basis of what he holds most dear is the variety of cultures he experienced in private school in a state that is 25% caucasian and openly anti-white racist.
From Snopes, quoting Obama - "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of twelve or thirteen, when I began to suspect I was ingratiating myself to whites"
So within two years after returning from Indonesia he was obsessed with race and feared "ingratiating [himself] to whites". Just like every American!
Newsweek - "Keith Kakugawa was a close friend of Obama's at the Punahou School. [...]
Back in Hawaii in the 1970s, it could seem that everyone was some kind of a minority. The fact that Obama was half-black and half-white didn't matter much to anyone but Obama, Kakugawa says: 'He made everything out like it was all racial.' On one occasion, Obama thought he'd gotten a bad break on the school basketball team because he was black. But Kakugawa recalls his father's telling the teenager, 'No, Barry, it's not because you're black. It's because you missed two shots in a row.' (Here, Kakugawa's memory is different from Obama's. The Ray character in the book is the one obsessed with being discriminated against.)"
Take the mother comment above. Then add the comments of Obama, his AG Eric Holder, and his Race Czar Sharpton. I think who recalls correctly has been settled.
Obama went on to Occidental. From Snopes, quoting Obama - "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy."
In case that isn't clear, they discussed the evils of the West, the evils and racism of the West, the evils of the West, and the evils of the male dominated West. That includes America. He states he sought out non-whites, non-Americans, Marxists, and others who were anti-American.
Newsweek - "Barry Obama decided that he didn't like his nickname. A few of his friends at Occidental College had already begun to call him Barack (his formal name), and he'd come to prefer that. The way his half sister, Maya, remembers it, Obama returned home at Christmas in 1980, and there he told his mother and grandparents: no more Barry. Obama recalls it slightly differently, but in the same basic time frame"
Keep in mind, this is someone who revels in criticizing and mocking those who comment on his name, the name he chose to switch to after 19 years as Barry. He consciously changed that name while spending all of his time with those who despise the West.
At this point we might look at Obama's writing in college for insight. But we can't. All records of the only President of the Harvard Law Review never to have been published are sealed from the public.
I'm going to skip Reverend Wright, the man Obama described as a good friend, the man who married Obama and his wife, the man whose church Obama attended for TWENTY YEARS, all while Obama was apparently unaware Wright feels about this country exactly as the people Obama sought out at Occidental.
I could address the insane and thoroughly race Wright but I won't. It would take too long.
In 2009, Obama was asked a seemingly simple question. Factcheck.org - ""[C]ould I ask you whether you subscribe, as many of your predecessors have, to the school of American exceptionalism that sees America as *uniquely qualified to lead* the world" After cutting through the endless word salad that is Obama's specialty, here's the closest he comes to a straight answer - "I see no contradiction between believing that America has a continued extraordinary role in leading the world towards peace and prosperity and recognizing that that leadership is incumbent, depends on, our ability to create partnerships because we create partnerships because we can’t solve these problems alone."
In short, "sees America as uniquely qualified to lead", no.
Back to 9/11.
A NYT op-ed - "In the four attacks for which the most complete information about the perpetrators' educational levels is available[...] 53 percent of the terrorists had either attended college or had received a college degree. As a point of reference, only 52 percent of Americans have been to college. [...]
The 1993 World Trade Center attack involved 12 men, all of whom had a college education. The 9/11 pilots, as well as the secondary planners identified by the 9/11 commission, all attended Western universities, a prestigious and elite endeavor for anyone from the Middle East."
Prestigious and elite.
What was Osama bin Laden's stated reason for war?
"Jewish-Christian alliance and their collaborators" "the enemy, the American-Israeli alliance occupying the country of the two holiest sites" "My Muslim Brothers of the world: Your brothers in land of the two holiest sites and Palestine are calling upon you for help and asking you to take part in fighting against the enemy, your enemy; the Israelis and Americans.'
When they murdered 3000 innocents on American soil, Obama's thought wasn't of Americans and America, but of "the underlying struggle between worlds of plenty (America) and worlds of want (The Middle East)", something that was apparently *not* the chief concern or motivation of the actual perpetrators. Meanwhile, "an indictment against Western imperialism" "and colonialism" coincidentally *is* directly from Osama bin Laden's declaration of war.
Back to Giuliani - "He doesn’t love you. And he doesn’t love me. He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up through love of this country.”
Are critics of Giuliani on this subject ignorant, idiots, zealots, or liars? It's one or more of those. There is no getting around that. And for any reader who got this far, ignorance is no longer the option.
Source links:
http://melvin-udall.livejournal.com/1648195.html